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+2 Shooting Brake production numbers

PostPost by: h20hamelan » Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:25 am

?
More than 3
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PostPost by: Chrispy » Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:42 am

I hope not!

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PostPost by: alan.barker » Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:48 am

I think there is only 1 Plus Two shooting Break by Paul Matty.
For the Elanbulance i don't know.
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PostPost by: trw99 » Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:55 am

Here is an article on Plus 2 estates I wrote for Club Lotus News magazine in 2018.

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PostPost by: alan.barker » Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:07 am

Thanks Tim,
i had forgotten about the others and just remember the Paul Matty article in a motoring magazine.
Must be old age creeping up on me.
For sure the Paul Matty one for me seems the best result.
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PostPost by: DJW » Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:08 am

Seen that one at PM quite a few times over last few years.
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PostPost by: jabingb » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:12 pm

trw99 wrote:Here is an article on Plus 2 estates I wrote for Club Lotus News magazine in 2018.

Tim

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Very nice compilation of these unusual creations, had no idea there were so many variations until I read your article!
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PostPost by: gus » Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:18 pm

The Matty car is a pretty nice piece of work. Might make different visual decisions but to each his own
Were I trying to make a +2 more useful, I would lower/move/ rearrange the fuel tank so you can pass through with seats folded down. The shooting brake adds so little storage, and no real passenger room to be worth the visuals.
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PostPost by: HCA » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:42 pm

Yes, +1 to a great article. I think I saw a Matty one once and liked it.

I do love looking at designer sketches of what is in their head compared to the actual car, where I guess there was always a 'ooar, you can't 'ave this that way lad' engineer to pull it all straight. I do like Ron Hickman's sketch - that would look really good - awesome is the word - if it were real :D
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PostPost by: alan.barker » Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:04 am

Hi Gus,
i agree with that. The fact that 1969/70 +2S already had the folding seats half the job had been already done.
A fuel Tank at a low level like in the Elan and it's weight when full would be better.
On my TVR 3000S there is a lockable Door through to the Boot which is very handy.
So the +2 could have been "fold down the seats then open/unlock the Door" through to the Boot.
With no Fuel Tank in the way sloshing Fuel all over the rear Wing :shock: :shock:
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PostPost by: DJW » Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:54 pm

Could always do the mx5 mod for fuel spillage. Mine was a nightmare before, now perfect.
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PostPost by: alan.barker » Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:36 pm

Yes,
exactly low Fuel Tank = no problem.
I wonder who at Lotus decided to put the Fuel Tank imho in a stupid position.
Already with the 2 people there is a weight distribution problem and to add to that the weight of a full Fuel Tank sooo high.
I'm ready to listen if there is a logical reason :?
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PostPost by: prezoom » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:38 pm

Rear end collision protection. Most cars today have the fuel tank well forward, some below the rear seat. Recall the Ford Pinto rear end collision fires.
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PostPost by: alan.barker » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:04 pm

But what about the Fuel Tank at the bottom of Boot in an Elan S4 or Sprint for example which was produced after the first +2 cars. The S4 and Sprints needed Type Approval also with the Fuel Tank at the bottom of the Boot.
"M" Series TVRs also have the Fuel Tank at back of Boot well exposed :shock:
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PostPost by: mbell » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:16 pm

How big is an elan tank?

The +2 is more targeted at daily use and touring so needs a decent sized tank. The storage under the floor is pretty limited when you allow for the spare wheel, exhaust, battery etc so would be hard to get a good sized tank there.
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