Is this an Elan engine mount?

[Brock]

Hi All,

Below are photos of my S1's carb-side engine mount. It's holding up a Toyota 4AGE, so I have reason to suspect it's not an original type. It needs to go.

I don't see such a mount (with its pointed top) in an image search of the subject, so I've come to ask the experts...

Thanks!

[oldelanman]

Difficult to make out from your photos but it looks like an Elan mount fitted upside down, possibly to lower the engine in the chassis, and then a strap welded over the open end to make it failsafe again. Be aware that there are two different mounts used on the Elan .. a standard Ford mount is always used on the exhaust side of the engine but on cars with Weber carbs a special Lotus mount is used on that side only to raise the engine to provide clearance under the carbs to the footwell. Stromberg equipped cars have the standard Ford mount on both sides.

Standard Ford mount LHS. Weber carb side mount RHS

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[Brock]

Nice one. I think you're exactly correct. Thanks.

Seems strange to weld on a vulcanized part. Replacement will be a fun puzzle. Something along the lines of the Kelvedon fabricated mounts would be the way to go.

[vstibbard]

Word of caution with the Kelvedon fabricated mounts, I had them fitted to my 26R and they were very harsh, I’m not using them now, I’ve purchased upgrade (filled in) std style mounts instead.
Vaughan

[Brock]

Word of caution with the Kelvedon fabricated mounts, I had them fitted to my 26R and they were very harsh, I’m not using them now, I’ve purchased upgrade (filled in) std style mounts instead.
Vaughan

Advise taken. Thanks Vaughan.

I did consider this and I'm not surprised. I am loath to weld a piece on a new vulcanized mount. Grade 8 bolts might do -- tapped to not penetrate the rubber. Or, make one like the Kelvedon mount, but with a bigger bush.

What a weird problem. It's the only goofy thing with this conversion. The exhaust side is sorted -- although 100% unidentified.

[david.g.chapman]

As well as the "bushed " engine mounts, Kelveden sell a conventional Ford mount, but filled with a compound 25% stiffer then the standard rubber.

I am trying one on the exhaust side of my Stromberg engine, and it's so far so good. The mount does not noticeably increase vibration, and there is less effect of heat on the engine mount. I had some clutch judder when the engine was hot after a long fast run, but it seems better now! I have also removed my home made heat shield from the mount.

I will know the full story when our long-awaited spring and summer arrives in Essex!

Dave Chapman.

[Brock]

Thanks Dave. That's the ticket.

We'll learn how they work upside-down! I will wrap a thick steel strap around it as a failsafe.

[nmauduit]

Below are photos of my S1's carb-side engine mount. It's holding up a Toyota 4AGE, so I have reason to suspect it's not an original type. It needs to go.

I don't see such a mount (with its pointed top) in an image search of the subject, so I've come to ask the experts...

Is it possible that they are modified mounts, e.g. cut and banded, possibly to increase clearance as shown on the second photo? or possibly to alter engine installed height due to the specific application?