26R 5 peg wheels
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Hello,
I bought a used set of 26R 5 peg wheels and the 26R spinners. When installing the wheels in the car, i realised that the spinner don?t go at the end of the thread of the Hub.
This set is from Kelvedon, They told me to remove 5 or 10mm inside the wheel....
Any help on this?
Best Regards
I bought a used set of 26R 5 peg wheels and the 26R spinners. When installing the wheels in the car, i realised that the spinner don?t go at the end of the thread of the Hub.
This set is from Kelvedon, They told me to remove 5 or 10mm inside the wheel....
Any help on this?
Best Regards
- zeca
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I don't have one of my wheels off the car but even 5-10mm doesn't appear to be enough? And then there's the issue of does the wheel have enough meat to safely allow it. Is it a matter of hub/spindles not being long enough? I take it this is not a true 26R but some adaptation? Here are a couple pixs of my Series 2 front and rear, the latter with the protruding spindle/hub tube, albeit rusty.
Jerry:
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'61 S2 Elite | '69 S4 Elan FHC | '00 S1 Elise Sport 190
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jabingb - Second Gear
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zeca wrote:Does anyone have a set of 26R 5 peg that can tell me the depth of the wheel? Mine is about 35mm as image above.
thanks
Yes, I have a set of brand new ones and they are the same. I haven't decided what to do about it yet but I am certainly not happy with only half the amount thread being used. I would not be happy machining the mounting face either as that will make the offset worse.
Dale.
- Dale Harvey
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Has anyone had a go at solving this problem of not enough threads on the hub?
- Dale Harvey
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RE: Number of threads.
Carroll Shelby's book may address that question.
There is a professional book on fasteners, but, at $300+ probably not many people have it.
I seem to remember that something like 4 threads engaged provides sufficient strength.
Perhaps Rohan can give us guidance.
Cheers,
David
1968 36/7988
Carroll Shelby's book may address that question.
There is a professional book on fasteners, but, at $300+ probably not many people have it.
I seem to remember that something like 4 threads engaged provides sufficient strength.
Perhaps Rohan can give us guidance.
Cheers,
David
1968 36/7988
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msd1107 - Fourth Gear
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Carrol Smiths advice on threaded fasteners (from memory, so beware) was 1.5 diameters for thread engagement, with a minimum of 1 diameter. I do not recall if he provided any advice on knock off nuts, which may well be different.
In any case, I would not feel comfortable with only 4 threads engaged on a heavily loaded wheel nut. I would be looking for a least one thread past the end of the nut, or a thread engagement length equal to at least the diameter of the threads.
In any case, I would not feel comfortable with only 4 threads engaged on a heavily loaded wheel nut. I would be looking for a least one thread past the end of the nut, or a thread engagement length equal to at least the diameter of the threads.
Steve
Elan S1 1963-Bourne bodied
Elan S3 1967 FHC pre airflow
Formerly:
Elan S1 1964
Elan S3 1966 FHC pre airflow
Elan S3 1967 FHC airflow
Elan S4 1969 FHC
Europa S2 1970
Esprit S2 1979
Elan S1 1963-Bourne bodied
Elan S3 1967 FHC pre airflow
Formerly:
Elan S1 1964
Elan S3 1966 FHC pre airflow
Elan S3 1967 FHC airflow
Elan S4 1969 FHC
Europa S2 1970
Esprit S2 1979
- bitsobrits
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bitsobrits wrote:Carrol Smiths advice on threaded fasteners (from memory, so beware) was 1.5 diameters for thread engagement, with a minimum of 1 diameter. I do not recall if he provided any advice on knock off nuts, which may well be different.
In any case, I would not feel comfortable with only 4 threads engaged on a heavily loaded wheel nut. I would be looking for a least one thread past the end of the nut, or a thread engagement length equal to at least the diameter of the threads.
The above setup appears to have a problem (hub too short for this specific application?) and I also would not drive at speed on 4 alloy threads, but if I may, "a thread engagement length equal to at least the diameter of the threads" is clearly impossible with the stock KO nuts, that have a threaded depth about half of their diameter (and are engaged on steel wheel 7 to 8 threads I would say)...
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nmauduit - Coveted Fifth Gear
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I think all agree that there's not enough threads on the hubs for this setup. What I need is a good and safe way of extending the threaded section on the hubs.
- Dale Harvey
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Dale Harvey wrote:I think all agree that there's not enough threads on the hubs for this setup. What I need is a good and safe way of extending the threaded section on the hubs.
I have had these Kelvedon wheels on my car 21 years now with no issues. My TTR spinners have 11 total threads, with between 8 and 9 engaged. Given that Cobra Halibrands only have about 9 total threads, I don’t think it’s a problem.
My wheels certainly do not have as many exposed threads like the photo at the top of this thread. Perhaps spinner differences?
Mike
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TTR replica 26R wheels and spinners. Full engagement of threads front and back. Pretty much the same as "jabingb" 's true 26R.
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