New set of headers hitting crossmember.
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At the suggestion of Ray at RD, I am posting this out.
I recently bought a set of headers from Ray. They are the ones that are all welded together with a thick backing plate on the face that bolts to the head.
I have know Ray for 25 years or so I am not saying anything bad here, I just dont get it.
I just put them on, on motor I just rebuilt. The bottom of the down pipe is hitting the channel crossmember. Just enough so the it hits but I dont think it is actually holding the motor "up" but I might be wrong. It appears to me that the one pipe is hitting and the other is not. In additon, the top rear bolt is also hitting the header enough so that I cannot get a wrench or socket on it. It is just finger tight. That is not a big issue as I dont think it will fall out and there are three more, but I am concerned about it wearing a hole in the header as well.
Here are some pictures. I am at a lost at what I am doing wrong. Chassis seems unmolested. Stock. Any ideas? Do I have the motor mounts mounted on the wrong side? it has been a long time since I owned a non Spyder chassis Elan. About 15 years since I really worked on one. I owned my old Sprint for a while back in 2004 just long enough to sell it to someone on this list, but not really worked on one since about 97.
I recently bought a set of headers from Ray. They are the ones that are all welded together with a thick backing plate on the face that bolts to the head.
I have know Ray for 25 years or so I am not saying anything bad here, I just dont get it.
I just put them on, on motor I just rebuilt. The bottom of the down pipe is hitting the channel crossmember. Just enough so the it hits but I dont think it is actually holding the motor "up" but I might be wrong. It appears to me that the one pipe is hitting and the other is not. In additon, the top rear bolt is also hitting the header enough so that I cannot get a wrench or socket on it. It is just finger tight. That is not a big issue as I dont think it will fall out and there are three more, but I am concerned about it wearing a hole in the header as well.
Here are some pictures. I am at a lost at what I am doing wrong. Chassis seems unmolested. Stock. Any ideas? Do I have the motor mounts mounted on the wrong side? it has been a long time since I owned a non Spyder chassis Elan. About 15 years since I really worked on one. I owned my old Sprint for a while back in 2004 just long enough to sell it to someone on this list, but not really worked on one since about 97.
Tony Vaccaro
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tvacc - Fourth Gear
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Tony - From the parts list on Ray's site it looks like you have the motor mount spacers on the wrong side. The parts list shows them on the intake side. Mine has been apart so long I really don't remember how they were installed.
Bud
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Funny you should write that. I could not remember myself which side the spacers go on. I have a Spyder chassis car here to compare, but mine does not use them. I did actually try to put them on the right side (passenger side here in the USA), but the headers would not fit at all then, so I don't think they are on the wrong side. But hopefully someone will chime in that has a car to look at.
Tony Vaccaro
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tvacc - Fourth Gear
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When I tried to put the spacers on the other side, I was using the motor mount now on the left side. May be I have this all messed up. Could some one tell me the right way.....mounts and spacers.
Tony Vaccaro
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tvacc - Fourth Gear
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Do a search for "motor mount spacers"' There's an entry saying that the parts list showing them on the intake side is a typo. There's another thread detailing some of the problems you are having. Sorry I sent you in the wrong direction.
Bud
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Hi Tony,
Are your engine mounts the same on both sides, looking at your pictures I was wondering if you have an Elan mount on the intake side that would tilt your engine over towards the exhaust side. On the +2 the mounts are the standard ford unit and are the same height.
Chris.
Are your engine mounts the same on both sides, looking at your pictures I was wondering if you have an Elan mount on the intake side that would tilt your engine over towards the exhaust side. On the +2 the mounts are the standard ford unit and are the same height.
Chris.
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Sorry to mislead you all. I mistakenly posted this in the plus 2 section. I posted of again in the regular Elan section.
My car is a regular Elan.
Could a moderator take these posts and move them to the post in "Elans". Then delete this thread in plus 2 section?
My car is a regular Elan.
Could a moderator take these posts and move them to the post in "Elans". Then delete this thread in plus 2 section?
Tony Vaccaro
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72 Elan Sprint, 93 Caterham (Bought new), 05 Elise RD (Bought new),
99 Elise190, 05 Elise BLK (Bought nearly new), 2024 Emira, 2005 MiataSpeed Turbo
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72 Elan Sprint, 93 Caterham (Bought new), 05 Elise RD (Bought new),
99 Elise190, 05 Elise BLK (Bought nearly new), 2024 Emira, 2005 MiataSpeed Turbo
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