Greenstuff pads

[Bud English]

I'm planning on running without servos on my +2 using a 0.700" MC. Per the advice from many on the forum, I ordered EBC, greenstuff pads for the front. The part number that shows up for the car on US suppliers websites is PD2114. The pads I received don't fit the calipers. The holes are too small and the spacing is incorrect. The pads are about 25% too small overall and rectangular in shape. I don't know if the part number is incorrect or the parts in the box are wrong.

Can anyone running these pads confirm the correct part number for the pads?
The car is a 1970 elan +2S fed.

Thanks,

[lotocone]

Bud,

I have some new front pads that are shown as DP2114 on the box. Someone wrote GRENJ0533 on the box also. A label on the box shows they are for Lotus Elan and Seven, Triumph Spitfire and Volvo 240.

Haven't installed mine yet, but they look to be the same size as the stock pads.

[lotocone]

Bud,

Sorry I have an Elan not a Plus 2. I don't think my previous post would apply to your brakes.

[Bud English]

That actually helps. I think the parts references are wrong on the US suppliers websites. Unfortunately EBC doesn't seem to have a parts cross reference on their own site. They rely on their distributors.

[lotocone]

Maybe you got Elan pads which are smaller as far as I know.

[Jason1]

http://www.ebcbrakeshop.co.uk/lotus_c29 ... _34333.htm

2 different sets listed by these guys. DP2291 and DP2169 presumingly they are for either the 16PB or 16P calipers?

[Bud English]

Jason - That's dead on, with dimensioned drawings to ensure that you get the correct part even.

Many thanks,

[CSICO]

Can anyone running these pads confirm the correct part number for the pads?

Hi!
I added a link to the website of the swiss supplier of EBC brakes. It's downloadable and all the drawings/dimensions are listed as well.
Maybe it helps.

Cheers

Csico

http://www.ebc-brakes.ch/downloads/ebc_2010_pw_belaege_und_backen.pdf

[Shiny_kit]

Even when you do get the right parts, don't be surprised if they still don't fit out of the box - I had to grind down the two short edges (just a couple of mm) on mine, and drill out the pin holes, before they would go in.

[elansprint71]

Not what you want to hear but... our experience with Greenstuff pads on my son's old-skule Mini Cooper was not good; they wore out in no time and welded themselves to the discs (rotors) if the car was not used for more than three days. Eventually chunks of the friction material broke off. When the pads were cold it felt like the brakes had been greased. However, they were a nice green colour.
He fitted Mintex DS11 and they are still going strong after a year, car pulls up straight and true, stopping distances are much shorter and there is more feel to the pedal.

[Bud English]

Just a quick update. I had two different suppliers send me the wrong pads for my car. As it turns out EBC USA had a mistake in their database and catalog that listed the DP2114's for the front of the +2. The correct part number is DP2169. They are in the process of getting it corrected. Thanks to Csico for supplying the link to the Swiss supplier for EBC with the correct part number.

Thanks to everyone for their input, both pro and con, for the pads.

[Galwaylotus]

Not what you want to hear but... our experience with Greenstuff pads on my son's old-skule Mini Cooper was not good; they wore out in no time and welded themselves to the discs (rotors) if the car was not used for more than three days. Eventually chunks of the friction material broke off. When the pads were cold it felt like the brakes had been greased. However, they were a nice green colour.
He fitted Mintex DS11 and they are still going strong after a year, car pulls up straight and true, stopping distances are much shorter and there is more feel to the pedal.

I've had Greenstuff pads on the front of my S3 for two years and am very happy with them. They do like to be warmed slightly but it's not a problem for me.

[rgh0]

My summary of Greenstuff is as follows from my personal use which had a bias to the track as follows.

Pros:
cheap - half the price of some competitors pads
good high friction coefficent - great for an unboosted Elan system
reasonable at medium to high temperatures with good bite and consistency

Cons:
wear quickly
fall apart if get to hot
they leave corrosive dust everywhere especially if get hot
they need an application or 2 to warm a little ( or maybe clean off the corrosion products on pads and disks) before they work well as you drive off first thing in the morning

I would use personally Ferodo DS2500 for road use - significantly more expensive but last much longer with heavy use and overcome most of the cons of the Greenstuff

cheers
Rohan