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PostPost by: LoTex » Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:37 pm

Just pulling into the garage after my weekly exercise run with the S2 and I began to smell something burning and she started smoking. It's not the engine, thank goodness, but coming from the right front wheel. My handy little hydraulic jack seems to have lost a seal so I have to figure out another way to jack her up, but in the meantime any thoughts on the cause? I don't think the brake caliper is stuck as the pedal seems to engage and release alright, so I am guessing a wheel bearing.

Anyone have a similar incident and/or any ideas on what it might be?


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PostPost by: nebogipfel » Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:04 pm

Almost certainly the brake caliper, you wouldn't feel it on the brake pedal.
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PostPost by: alexblack13 » Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:55 pm

Almost certainly a stuck piston or pistons in the brake caliper on the offending side. A little 'stick' can result in lots of heat.

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PostPost by: LoTex » Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:47 am

Guys,

Thanks for the analysis. Is there an easy fix for the problem?


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PostPost by: Old English White » Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:47 am

LoTex wrote:Guys,

Thanks for the analysis. Is there an easy fix for the problem?


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PostPost by: nebogipfel » Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:23 pm

Steve, you can probably free off the stuck pistons but the best solution is reconditioned calipers.

The pistons and seals are readily available and it is not a difficult job to do but another option would be to get your own calipers rebuilt. In previous discussions (do a quick search) I know that others have recommended firms who have done a very good job at a reasonable price.

I'm sure someone will jump in with names and numbers :D

For general advice and parts in the UK IMO you can do no better than Susan Miller at Mick Miller Classic Lotus 01728 603307

I agree with the advice about handbrake pads but they are at the other end of the car of course :wink:
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PostPost by: elansprint71 » Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:41 pm

If the caliper is stuck on, a prime suspect is an internally collapsed flexible brake pipe; this can happen if the pipes are old, the pipe swells internally acting like a non-return valve. There is usually no outward sign of this fault.

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PostPost by: GrUmPyBoDgEr » Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:37 am

nebogipfel wrote:
I agree with the advice about handbrake pads but they are at the other end of the car of course :wink:




Ah but a faulty earth can cause a lot of confusion on Elans as we all have learned :wink:

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PostPost by: nebogipfel » Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:04 pm

Pete has made a very good point ........ forgot that one!
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PostPost by: Old English White » Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:16 pm

D.J.Pelly wrote:
nebogipfel wrote:
I agree with the advice about handbrake pads but they are at the other end of the car of course :wink:




Ah but a faulty earth can cause a lot of confusion on Elans as we all have learned :wink:

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No problemo ... My first fault was to have it read too quickly and in the same time thinking about the mistake I made with the hand brake on ... I am sure , I am not the only one and everybody ll do it .
Front caliper smoke , I had it years ago after a (too) long track session at the Bugatti . No stuck piston , no bracke pipe default , only trying too hard !
And btw the brake fluid get a nice brown color and had to be change ...
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PostPost by: alexblack13 » Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:16 pm

Hi All,
It is very easy to 'cook' the standard brakes on an elan. I live in sight of Knockhill race circuit and had lots of track days with club lotus in my previous life ( +2 S130). Every time I went to the track I came home with NO brakes having set them on fire. Silicone fluids helped a bit but did not cure. I had a few sets of worn, almost slick p6'S and wore those out completly also. Mad!! very good fun though.

I gave a few 'fast' cars a fright with that +2. :) :) LMP 413K

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PostPost by: LoTex » Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:13 pm

Thanks to all for the advice. I like the phrase 'cooked the brakes'. I have owned the car 28 years now and that is the first time that's happened.

I think it is clearly stuck calipers. I am picking up a new jack this weekend and will get the wheel off and inspect.


Thanks again!


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