Front brakes - Help!!

PostPost by: Old English White » Sat Jun 03, 2006 4:51 pm

... Hi
As usual , "OEW" is on stands...
Fitting new disks & pads from EBC , every was going fine when testing the car noises appear . The timken bearing were not thighten enough ... Back on stand , the problem is the round dust shield in contact with the new -maybe to large?- disk , so the assembly canot be thighten correctly. When folding the shield the problem move to another area because this the bowl area who is in contact.
My questions are , is that dust shield necessary ? have you already had such problem , what will you do ?
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PostPost by: SADLOTUS » Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:56 pm

Hi Old English, Sling'em! I've run without backing plates for years, all they ever seemed to do was catch stones, gravel and rubble. I think they were to keep water off in the rain. I'll be interested to see what others say.
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PostPost by: Old English White » Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:25 pm

... Thanks for your reply , Sadlotus . So you remove them ... That I decided to do this evening ... The car down and out for a small tour in the country side ... just a pleasure !
I will think to these dust shields later but I am still interested on your solutions ... if they are different of me & Sadlotus ... !
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PostPost by: rgh0 » Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:44 am

I have removed the dust shields on my Elan many years ago with no problems. I did it mainly to aid disk cooling when racing rather than clearance or access reasons.

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PostPost by: elandoc » Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:23 am

I went to a great deal of trouble to carefully modify mine with little air scoops and beautifully cut louvred vents...then I took them off (typical of the many blind alleys in the development of my elan). Better cooling and less unsprung weight. The four pot calipers I now run are a further complication...for another thread.
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PostPost by: steveww » Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:56 am

I would be very interested to hear about your work with four pot calipers. I am currently looking at something similar.
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PostPost by: Old English White » Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:13 pm

... Seems that everybody is doing the same ... to the bin !
So , have you notice how heavy are the originals calipers ?
I don't speak about efficiency (not yet...) but what can be done for that ? Did you already write on this ?
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PostPost by: steveww » Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:52 am

Currently I have fitted the +2 front brakes (bigger disks and calipers) to my S4 Elan. This has certainly helped and the brakes are much better; reduced fade and improved f/r balance. However as you say the calipers weight a lot, about 5kg each! Could certainly loose a bit of unsprung weight by switching over to an alloy caliper. The same goes for the rear too, just need to figure out a handbrake mechanism :?
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PostPost by: patrics » Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:26 pm

Hi Christian,
The shields are fitted for a few reasons
1. To stop dirt/stones being thrown up on to the disc
2. To reduce a film of water building up between pad and disc - typical problem on wet motorways
3. heat shield for rubber suspension boots

Positive side is much better cooling

I would remove them but if you have the inclination make up a small shield to protect the rubber bits

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