Lotus Elan

Early Plus 2 for sale in NZ

PostPost by: blackandgold » Fri May 18, 2007 6:19 am

Found this on the New Zealand trade me auction site

Chassis no is 50/0192

Appears to have later model rear tail lights so perhaps not a 1967 model?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 4.htm?p=10

Car looks to be good value for local market if as described
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PostPost by: Jason1 » Fri May 18, 2007 8:21 pm

Number 192 should be:

Built on 30th November 1967
Engine number LP10120LBA with a 4 speed gearbox.

In the pictures it has the external boot handle so maybe someone just added the rear lights at a later date?
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PostPost by: dusty » Fri May 18, 2007 8:54 pm

I think they stopped using the alfa lights very early on. Mine has the Lucas lights and is the early type with boot handle and one piece door handle / lock.

Jason, Where did you get the info on the engine number and build date?
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PostPost by: blackandgold » Sat May 19, 2007 11:11 am

Jason,

That is very precise any idea if it was morning or afternoon :lol:

Seriously that date makes sense as according to the Autocar Elan +2 introduction article dated September 1967 which states that Lotus had the ability to make 20 +2's a week that would make around 80 a month and you would expect to be into the 200's by November

As far as the tail lights go, does any one know when the Alpha ones were phased out ?
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PostPost by: Elanintheforest » Sat May 19, 2007 9:58 pm

50/0178 had 'Revised Rear Lamp Assemblies', according to the Robinshaw / Ross book. And before that, at 50/0170 it had a revised windscreen, which is a bit of a worry...what the hec was it before 0170? :o

Only 3 other improvements before that back to the first car, and they were just tweeks

I just dragged the body of 50/0032 back home this afternoon from its 30 year slumber, and it looks like the lamp mouldings on the rear are different to accomodate the lamps...I'll have a closer look in the morning. I hope the Alfa light lenses are available as I've got a great big crack in one. And what was the original windscreen???!!!
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PostPost by: 1964 S1 » Sun May 20, 2007 12:20 am

Maybe a different type of glass?
My not so early '69 has it's original windscreen which says "FoMoCo" at the top center, I believe they're all from a Capri and slightly tilted lower than on the Capri.
I find it totally fascinating that the front bumper and windscreen determined our beloved +2's external dimensions.
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PostPost by: Elanintheforest » Sun May 20, 2007 7:55 am

And don't forget the front grille chrome surround from an Anglia Van and the rear bumper from a Riley Elf. I won't count the Austin 1100 door handles as they didn't really have to fit much of a shape...but I bet the Elf bumper and the Anglia grille surround had some influence. So here are the three design inspirations...Hmmmmm.
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PostPost by: Jason1 » Sun May 20, 2007 6:19 pm

I have them all memorised, do you guys not??? :lol: :lol:




There was a link in the archive a while ago to a web page, but I cannot find it now. I saved the PDF from the site.

If you want it PM me your email and I will email it to you, or spend hours looking for it in the archive :D :D :D

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PostPost by: oldokie » Sun May 20, 2007 7:13 pm

Mine also has Lucas lamps and boot handle 50/0183
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PostPost by: blackandgold » Mon May 21, 2007 12:28 pm

As far as styling influences go don't forget the original tail lamps, which inspired the designer after following a Alpha into a roundabout, its interesting that in a short time of about 2 to 3 months they changed over to the Lucas ones I wonder what happened, was it because of supply problems or maybe the Lucas units were not ready in time for intial production

Also as far as the windsceens go I understand that all +2's use the same type the only changes were to the rubbers, surounds and windscreen openings during production

With all these questions its about time for a dedicated book covering the +2
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