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John Surtees RIP

PostPost by: Paul Chapman » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:35 am

Sad to see that John Surtees 1964 F1 champion has passed away, think he drove a Lotus at the 1960 Monaco GP.
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PostPost by: Chancer » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:15 am

He was the landlord of our factory in Edenbridge, a decent guy to do business with, only person ever to be the world champion on both 2 wheels and 4.
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PostPost by: KevJ+2 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:13 pm

Truly, a great champion and nice person.
When you think of his acheivements and his world championship titles... then compare him to someone like Nico Rosberg (as a world champion :roll: )... Different league!
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PostPost by: nomad » Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:58 pm

As a motorcycle and car nut in my youth I pretty much worshiped Surtee's. Hailwood as well.

Sad...

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PostPost by: martinbrowning » Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:06 pm

Yep, finished second at Monaco in 1960 driving a Lotus - at that time he was still racing bikes and won his fourth two wheel championship in that year, before switching to four wheels.
Never met him but did have the privilege of meeting and chatting with Phil Hill at goodwood some years ago - another true gentleman. Other than Sir Stirling, not many gentlemen of the sport left :cry:


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PostPost by: Chancer » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:41 pm

I saw a fairly recent TV programme on him and his house, family etc, IIRC he had a son quite late in life that died tragically at a young age in a freak motorsport accident, J.S. seemed very saddened and demoralised at the loss, I know that my own grandfather who had been bright, fit and active all his life went downhill very fast indeed when he lost both his children within a few years of each other.
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PostPost by: elans3 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:15 pm

The only man ever to win the World Championship on two wheels and four.
I watched him many times and marvelled at his speed, even in his seventies, particularly once at the Goodwood Revival, driving Nick mason's Ferrari 250 GTO to victory , where he was miles quicker than anyone else.
My son Andy & I had the pleasure of his company for about 20 mins, at the back of the pits at Donington in May 1999. He was there to demonstrate the Mercedes Museum W154 Silver Arrow at the lunch halt. He told us a story about, (just before he fell out with Enzo Ferrari ), walking round the back of the factory with Enzo, who pointed to two GTO's gathering dust. The "old man" told him that he could have both for ?14000. John thought about it for a few seconds and politely declined. "Worst days work I ever did" he told us.

At the lunch halt he gave awesome display, powering the 650bhp monster sideways but forwards in front of the home straight grandstand. In the late 90's, he was the only man that Mercedes would trust with the priceless Silver Arrows, and at that time he was 65 !
We found him to be a real gentleman, always willing to spend time to chat to his fans.

Rest in peace Big John.
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PostPost by: GHill » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:10 pm

I met John at Hever Castle where he used to show a few of his cars and his bikes every year for his trust. He was a great guy and I have some great photo's of him with me and my two boys, they will grow up remembering the legend that he is...

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PostPost by: Rob P » Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:43 am

Very sad to hear the passing of John Surtees, truly a racing legend and the big question that I am sure will never be answered was why are we not referring to him as Sir John Surtees

RIP John, you were a true legend and a gentleman racer of the highest order
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PostPost by: TeeJay » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:39 am

Rob P wrote:Very sad to hear the passing of John Surtees, truly a racing legend and the big question that I am sure will never be answered was why are we not referring to him as Sir John Surtees


Agree:-
RIP Sir John.
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PostPost by: Chancer » Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:32 pm

Because he very gently and politely put straight people who addressed him with that title socially, in daily life and in business.

He was more honorable in my eyes for being a gentleman than a "Sir".
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PostPost by: Keith Scarfe » Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:38 pm

RIP Sir
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