Clarkson Sacked by BBC, Amazon Prime to the rescue!
trw99 wrote:We are car enthusiasts. We expect Top Gear to be about cars and driving.
In fact, Top Gear is not a car programme. It is an entertainment programme. That is why it has been so successful. People in general enjoy watching it, they have a laugh, they find it - entertaining.
If Top Gear was about cars and driving in the stricter sense most of us expect, then viewing figures would drop off, since we would end up watching it to be informed, others would no longer be entertained by it.
Tim
Watch out chaps! Tim has been taking insight pills....
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Spyder fan wrote:Watch out chaps! Tim has been taking insight pills....
You guys must have quite a pharmacy between you.
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AHM wrote:Chris Evans is worse than Jeremy Clarkson. Two of the most predictable and overpaid presenters - How about some fresh tallent?
What are your suggestions, or are you thinking that some spotty oik fresh out of drama school should be given a go? The main presenter needs charisma, energy, humor, timing and more than a little gravitas....look at the Channel 5 Classic Car program to see how not to do it!
I'm wondering what folks would really like to see in a car program these days. The old Top Gear days of factual presentation would have the audience switching off within 5 minutes, and the facts as such are all available on-line and in countless monthly magazines. 5th gear seems to be something in-between the old Top Gear and the current program, but that hasn't received any comment on here by way of comparison. So what's missing guys? What would you have in a 1 hour program, 20 episodes a year?
For me, the program that stands out above all others is 'Chasing Classic Cars'. It's presented by Wayne Carini, who runs a restoration shop in Connecticut, mid way between New York and Boston. His presentation skills don't hold the audience, but his phenomenal knowledge and the subject matter does.
In his first episode he gets a call about a Bugatti Type 57 Atalante that was parked up in a garage in 1962 and had been untouched since. It got my goose bumps going! We see the car from the garage door being opened, and the theme is much the same in most episodes, where a rare car is discovered, dragged back to Wayne's restoration shop, renovated / restored, then put up for auction.
http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/other ... barn-find/
The 'find' content over 3 series has been just staggering, ranging from Edwardian era (Brass cars in the US), through 20s and 30s American and European exotica, and then mainly featuring cars from the 50s, 60s and 70s, with a lot of Ferraris, Cobras, Porsches, Jaguars and a few muscle cars thrown in for good measure. It is the content that makes the show for sure, but the mix of market and restoration knowledge, as well as the goose bump finds, makes it compelling watching for me. Record only to avoid the adverts!
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JC is a shrewd cookie and knows what he is doing. I think he sees the writing on the wall as to a stale and tired format, which whilst still drawing in the hard core punters, is losing credibility in the UK. He is a bully - no doubt, witness his frequent tantrums when he doesn't get his own way (even in a domestic setting - footpaths). I have watched and find myself amused by his banter, but, much of the actual information is bent to match his agenda - state what supports your case and ignore what doesn't all the time booming "NO, NO, LA LA LA I can't hear you".
The truth, as always, is more complex and prosaic, and doesn't sell papers or programes. If you don't like something shout and drown out any voice of dissent. Don't trust me, or him - make your own mind up about things. Don't fall victim to cognitive bias.
On a lighter note, old, but still fun...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI
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The truth, as always, is more complex and prosaic, and doesn't sell papers or programes. If you don't like something shout and drown out any voice of dissent. Don't trust me, or him - make your own mind up about things. Don't fall victim to cognitive bias.
On a lighter note, old, but still fun...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI
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JJDraper wrote:JC is a shrewd cookie and knows what he is doing. I think he sees the writing on the wall as to a stale and tired format, which whilst still drawing in the hard core punters, is losing credibility in the UK. He is a bully - no doubt, witness his frequent tantrums when he doesn't get his own way (even in a domestic setting - footpaths). I have watched and find myself amused by his banter, but, much of the actual information is bent to match his agenda - state what supports your case and ignore what doesn't all the time booming "NO, NO, LA LA LA I can't hear you".
The truth, as always, is more complex and prosaic, and doesn't sell papers or programes. If you don't like something shout and drown out any voice of dissent. Don't trust me, or him - make your own mind up about things. Don't fall victim to cognitive bias.
On a lighter note, old, but still fun...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI
Jeremy - not Clarkson
Which JC ?
Jeremy or Julian ?
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Get rid of him. He is an over bearing ponse.
Get rid of politics and personalities and get back to cars, clubs and the people who drive them.
Get rid of the childish "Jackars*", prank type rubbish.
Hope some thing else steps in and takes its place.
Good chance for Fifth gear to fix its self up and step in and take their place.
But for sure not in its present form. Just saw an episode where all three segments had been previously done on TG. Including the fighter plane and that twisty road that we should drive once in a life time. Even that description was the same. Jeez.
Get rid of politics and personalities and get back to cars, clubs and the people who drive them.
Get rid of the childish "Jackars*", prank type rubbish.
Hope some thing else steps in and takes its place.
Good chance for Fifth gear to fix its self up and step in and take their place.
But for sure not in its present form. Just saw an episode where all three segments had been previously done on TG. Including the fighter plane and that twisty road that we should drive once in a life time. Even that description was the same. Jeez.
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Fancy a good laugh? Then please, please por favour, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48h-q-FEBSw
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Elanintheforest wrote:For me, the program that stands out above all others is 'Chasing Classic Cars'. It's presented by Wayne Carini, who runs a restoration shop in Connecticut, mid way between New York and Boston. His presentation skills don't hold the audience, but his phenomenal knowledge and the subject matter does.
Mark
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Votes for Alan Partridge as replacement are gathering pace...
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AH HA!
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trw99 wrote:Fancy a good laugh? Then please, please por favour, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48h-q-FEBSw
Tim
Haha, haha, haha, God this is good!
Hysterical!
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The petition reached the one million mark today
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/jeremy-clarkson-police-forced-to-issue-advisory-as-the-stig-drives-tank-through-london-to-deliver-top-gear-petition-to-the-bbc-10122539.html
Delivered to the BBC by The Stig, driving a tank
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/jeremy-clarkson-police-forced-to-issue-advisory-as-the-stig-drives-tank-through-london-to-deliver-top-gear-petition-to-the-bbc-10122539.html
Delivered to the BBC by The Stig, driving a tank
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