Russia

[Terry Posma]

Tucker Carlson. You do realise that he was nightly going on about the stolen election and then stated off screen Trump was wacko.

You need to distinguish between news and opinion.

[AshleyPark]

For those of you who refuse to read the Carlson piece, here's a link to the video of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7I5mrWipls

Definitely worth watching, whether you like him or not.

[rgh0]

I think you’re losing it Rohan. Your only argument now seems to be to attack the people who say things that you don’t like or disagree with. Russel Brand, Scott Ritter and Tucker Carlson all being cases in point.

I feel far more inclined to believe their reasoned arguments to anyone who believes the nonsense that Russia blew up its own pipeline.

I said that Tucker Carlson needs to put together a compilation of his statements on Ukraine for the last year to demonstrate his credibility or lack there of. I dont think that is attacking someone by just asking that the facts be presented.

You also keep repeating a falsehood that I believe Russia blew up the pipeline because I say there is no evidence that the USA and Norway did it. Contiually repeating a falsehood does not make it true.

I am not asking you to believe anything and not attacking anyone, though you appear to believe I am attacking people by disagreeing with the data ( or lack of data) they present. I just asking you to look at the data with an open mind.

[rgh0]

In addition I dont believe I ever attacked Russell Brand and i did not know who he was until you named him. I have now wasted some time and looked through his utube stuff and I have never seen such as data free, emotion laden site. He makes Scott Ritter looking like a rational human being in comparision which I did not think was possible

[h20hamelan]

I have to put the fundamental blame on Putin. I can't accept the Russian view that for "self defense" they must control all the territory of the former USSR. Before Putin started the war, NATO was pretty much moribund, with everyone but the US getting a free ride and the US increasingly wondering, why bother. The Germans were not planning to invade Russia again. They're too busy becoming an Islamic republic.

[SENC]

I have to put the fundamental blame on Putin. I can't accept the Russian view that for "self defense" they must control all the territory of the former USSR. Before Putin started the war, NATO was pretty much moribund, with everyone but the US getting a free ride and the US increasingly wondering, why bother. The Germans were not planning to invade Russia again. They're too busy becoming an Islamic republic.

Please don't go injecting logic and common sense into this!

[john.p.clegg]

For those of you who refuse to read the Carlson piece, here's a link to the video of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7I5mrWipls

Definitely worth watching, whether you like him or not.

[englishmaninwales]

In addition I dont believe I ever attacked Russell Brand and i did not know who he was until you named him. I have now wasted some time and looked through his utube stuff and I have never seen such as data free, emotion laden site. He makes Scott Ritter looking like a rational human being in comparision which I did not think was possible

Unfortunately for you Rohan, you won’t get the time back you’ve completely wasted watching Russell Brand!
Malcolm

[rgh0]

In addition I dont believe I ever attacked Russell Brand and i did not know who he was until you named him. I have now wasted some time and looked through his utube stuff and I have never seen such as data free, emotion laden site. He makes Scott Ritter looking like a rational human being in comparision which I did not think was possible

Unfortunately for you Rohan, you won’t get the time back you’ve completely wasted watching Russell Brand!
Malcolm

Made up for it by loading the Elan onto the trailer for my next race in a couple of weeks and then taking the Esprit for an enjoyable Sunday run An hour in a Lotus compensates for a lot in life

cheers
Rohan

[john.p.clegg]

Nice one ,

This is the way to deal with them...

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/eco-activists-vw-germany/

John

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I am sure all of you have projects in the garage that are more important than arguing about Russia.

Jeff

[AshleyPark]

Well said Jeff!

[john.p.clegg]

My apologies Jeff , didn't mean to upset anyone....

John

P.S. Maybe it's time to close this thread, no-one is going to change their mind...until Mr. P. presses the button.

[AshleyPark]

Give it a rest, John!

[john.p.clegg]

Put your ego back in the box...

I wasn't talking about you, but the Real Mr P. ( Putin )

Goodnight.

John