Lotus Elan

Basic Tool Kit - What Do I Need

PostPost by: McFast » Mon Jan 15, 2024 9:23 am

Hi,

I have purchased a 1966 Elan Coupe. I will collect it in a few weeks so no pictures available yet !

I am a pretty competent mechanic and own and have built and maintained several Porsche 911 road and race cars. This means all of my tools are pretty much focused on and selected for these specific cars. All of my spanners, sockets, hex keys etc are all metric.

What basic and specialist tools would I need to put together to look after my Elan.

Any advice welcome especially specific tools and any tips or tricks on tools that really work.

I promise photos in the future.

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PostPost by: nmauduit » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:27 pm

Hello, and welcome !

depending on the condition of your car you'll obviously need a differing amount of specific tools... a copy of the manuals will probably help (and reading this forum, as most of the topics you'll face would have or will be covered). From the top of my mind, if you decided to pull the rear hubs, get or get loaned specific hub pullers (they are made of cast steel, not cast iron, and hitting them or pulling on them by the side can easily induce deformations which would potentially impair operation).

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PostPost by: McFast » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:43 pm

nmauduit wrote:Hello, and welcome !

a copy of the manuals will probably help



this was going to be my next question - best manuals and books both technical and general reading - I have the twin cam engine book and the Robinshaw and Ross book and a lotus workshop manual - any other pointers would be appreciated
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PostPost by: smo17003 » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:48 pm

Welcome to the world of Elan ownership.
It would help to know if you have bought a resto project, or something that is ready to drive and enjoy.
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PostPost by: McFast » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:50 pm

smo17003 wrote:Welcome to the world of Elan ownership.
It would help to know if you have bought a resto project, or something that is ready to drive and enjoy.


It's a fully running and driving car. Has been restored in the past. Should be well sorted, I hope.........

I have too many projects which is why I went for one that was running and has had good money already spent on it.

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PostPost by: trw99 » Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:54 pm

Hi Douglas and welcome,

In addition to the Elan Workshop Manual and the Elan Parts List, a copy of Brian Buckland's Addendum Workshop Manual will be of the most practical help as you tackle issues.

I have a mix of metric and other tools, spanners and sockets, gathered over the past 50 odd years of motoring. A trip to my local Halfords usually sorts out any problems as far as my, admittedly limited, mechanical abilities lead me to.

Good luck!

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PostPost by: Craven » Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:26 pm

Become familiar with electrics as used in a fibreglass (non-conducting body) car. Use of a good multimeter, it will become your best friend.
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PostPost by: McFast » Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:28 pm

Craven wrote:Become familiar with electrics as used in a fibreglass (non-conducting body) car. Use of a good multimeter, it will become your best friend.



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PostPost by: smo17003 » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:05 pm

You will find lots of the dreaded Lucas bullet connectors throughout the car. If you have to do anything with the harness you might want to consider the correct tools for crimping on new bullets and for closing the bullets into the actual connectors. This Ebay ad illustrates how they work https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/363052834317 ... %3A4429486

Also, a dab of dielectric grease in to the connectors can help protect against moisture and corrosion etc. The connections at the front of the car are very vulnerable.
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PostPost by: The Veg » Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:38 pm

I've found that with a 7/16" spanner and a 1/2" spanner I can take most of my Plus 2 apart.

Apart from the electrical stuff, just start with a good non-metric mechanic's toolset and you'll be most of the way there.
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PostPost by: rgh0 » Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:47 am

As you work on the car you will discover a number of items have better access if you change the bolts to hex socket headed types, So a set of inch sized long ball head hex keys is useful in additon to a general set of inch size ring spanners, open ended spanner and sockets.

After that just buy tools as you find a need for them, a quality specialist tool is always worth tracking down for a job that initially seems difficult to do.

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PostPost by: mbell » Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:01 pm

I bought a motorcycle tool kit with imperial tools for not a lot of money. Had set of spanners, sockets+rachet, pliers wire cutters, screw drivers etc. I think it cover the bases well, haven't had to use it on my car in anger but have a used on other peoples cars and it covered the needs.

I bought it while in the US for ~$50 so can't recommend a specific one to buy in the UK.
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PostPost by: 2cams70 » Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:23 pm

Buy yourself a punching bag to hang up if you don't already have one. You probably already do if you've been working with those things that have the engine in the wrong position - what are they called again? I can't remember.

Edit - Actually in this application it's not just a punching bag. It's also a "You fu**ing bas**rd bag". In other words something you can talk things through with in times of need. Checkrail who is on this forum well understands
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PostPost by: tonyabacus » Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:23 am

Hi Douglas
As an ex Porsche man you will probably understand the benefits of shorter spanners to get into small spaces. You can pick up lots of imperial stuff these days from autojumbles, rather than buying new. The typical range of sizes you need are from 7/16" up to 5/8", but as the cars are now over 50 years old, bolts and nuts can be rusted up. So I would suggest both ring as well as open ended in the above sizes and also a set of 3/8" drive socket wrenches, the 1/2" wrenches can be too long and awkward to get into places on an Elan. I also find 6 point rather than 12 point long reach sockets are better, as there is less likelihood of rounding off corners and you can get onto the nuts(where an overlong bolt has been substituted).

If you go to the Wiki above and access the factory Parts Manual, all the most useful spanners are noted there, I would purchase a couple of 7/16-1/2" spanners so you can grip both the bolt and its nut at the same time.(one of the more popular sizes).

There are so many different tools out there you could end up buying far more than you need, but the above as well as a good multi meter (the cheap versions are not worth looking at), will all serve your basic needs.

On the Wiki there is also a copy of the factory manual, so it may be worth looking up and seeing if this is worth you buying (try and get the latest version printed which was about 1974 as it will have the later amendments and additions), they come up frequently on eBay.

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PostPost by: TonyA » Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:23 pm

I also bought a Lotus Elan ( but plus2) after years of looking after my 1980 Porsche 911.and had to buy the imperial spanners and sockets. Recommend 6 point rather than 12 point sockets...

As regards specialist tools: 1. Rear hub remover. 2 tool for the 3 eared wheel spinners ( I could not get comfortable with wacking them off with the copper mallet and guessing how much to tighten them). Both avaliable from Kelvedon; not cheap though. but buy before you need and find "Out of stock" .. "Wating for the next batch" .."No longer available" ..etc..If you use a spinner tool, you will also need a torque wrench thst goes to 220 ft lbs.-I bought mine from Halfords Professional range with lifetime no quibble guarantee and is about £80 ; great piece of kit. .A long breaker bar too..

Get a fire extinguisher too..!

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