New Dual Brake master Cylinder

PostPost by: umbyfer » Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:56 pm

Hello,

i need your help. On my Sprint Federal i have the Girling Dual Brake Master Cylinder LHD, bore 0.7" (17,8 mm).
It seems nobody sell a new reproduction. Tony Tompson and Classic Team lotus (Ex Paul matty) sell a similar type but for RHD only.

Thank you for any help.

Umberto
Umberto Ferrari
Modena - Italy
Elan Sprint 7108000193K
Elite SII #1319
umbyfer
Second Gear
Second Gear
 
Posts: 185
Joined: 03 Apr 2004

PostPost by: h20hamelan » Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:42 pm

I am sure I have used the Triumph Spitfire dual circuit, sorry I can not find the number.
Born, and brought home from the hospital (no seat belt (wtf)) in a baby!
Find out where the limits are, and start from there
Love your Mother
Earth
User avatar
h20hamelan
Coveted Fifth Gear
Coveted Fifth Gear
 
Posts: 1957
Joined: 25 Sep 2010

PostPost by: mbell » Thu Jun 20, 2024 8:27 pm

I've used a early spitfire on my +2, there also a shorter later one.

I suspect the brake line connections on the spitfire will be on the wrong side and tight to the inner arch. So might not fit.
'73 +2 130/5 RHD, now on the road and very slowly rolling though a "restoration"
mbell
Coveted Fifth Gear
Coveted Fifth Gear
 
Posts: 2643
Joined: 07 Jun 2013

PostPost by: rgh0 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:17 am

Theres a early Datsun 11/16 dual master cylinder with bottom outlets that will fit in a LHD or RHD car

cheers
Rohan

edited as it fits in both LHD and RHD
Last edited by rgh0 on Fri Jun 21, 2024 12:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
rgh0
Coveted Fifth Gear
Coveted Fifth Gear
 
Posts: 8409
Joined: 22 Sep 2003

PostPost by: umbyfer » Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:26 am

brake master cylinder federal.jpg and
I am considering to buy any used master cylinder removed from the car and put in a corner. If it is not too much damaged, it is possible to machine inside than to insert a cylinder in still in order to obtain the identical bore.
i am able to do it.
Thank you to everybody to have a look in the own cartons in garage.
Umberto Ferrari
Modena - Italy
Elan Sprint 7108000193K
Elite SII #1319
umbyfer
Second Gear
Second Gear
 
Posts: 185
Joined: 03 Apr 2004

PostPost by: h20hamelan » Fri Jun 21, 2024 2:48 pm

There are a few others whom fit, they are all N American things like the 1969 Cortina GT Ford Corsair P/U.
If you are still stuck, I can turn on the old computer and find the file.
Born, and brought home from the hospital (no seat belt (wtf)) in a baby!
Find out where the limits are, and start from there
Love your Mother
Earth
User avatar
h20hamelan
Coveted Fifth Gear
Coveted Fifth Gear
 
Posts: 1957
Joined: 25 Sep 2010

PostPost by: umbyfer » Fri Jun 21, 2024 2:53 pm

h20hamelan wrote:There are a few others whom fit, they are all N American things like the 1969 Cortina GT Ford Corsair P/U.
If you are still stuck, I can turn on the old computer and find the file.


i appreciate. thank you.
Umberto Ferrari
Modena - Italy
Elan Sprint 7108000193K
Elite SII #1319
umbyfer
Second Gear
Second Gear
 
Posts: 185
Joined: 03 Apr 2004

PostPost by: 2cams70 » Sat Jun 22, 2024 1:15 am

Physically looks exactly the same as Australian specification Mk 1 Escort with tandem circuit front drum brakes. Not sure about internal bore size - would have to check. LHD or RHD should make no difference - or is this assumption incorrect?
The same part described as being for a Ford is likely to be a lot cheaper and more readily available than one described as being for a Lotus!
1970 Ford Escort Twin Cam
1972 Ford Escort GT1600 Twin Cam
1980 Ford Escort 2.0 Ghia
Peugeot 505 GTI Wagons (5spdx1) (Autox1)
2022 Ford Fiesta ST.
2cams70
Coveted Fifth Gear
Coveted Fifth Gear
 
Posts: 2160
Joined: 10 Jun 2015

PostPost by: gav » Mon Jun 24, 2024 10:08 am

People like Classicar Automotive can restore master cylinders so if you have the original, they should be able to help.
One day I'll actually finish - completely - one day....
User avatar
gav
Fourth Gear
Fourth Gear
 
Posts: 538
Joined: 26 Jan 2004

PostPost by: umbyfer » Mon Jun 24, 2024 1:03 pm

2cams70 wrote:Physically looks exactly the same as Australian specification Mk 1 Escort with tandem circuit front drum brakes. Not sure about internal bore size - would have to check. LHD or RHD should make no difference - or is this assumption incorrect?
The same part described as being for a Ford is likely to be a lot cheaper and more readily available than one described as being for a Lotus!

LHD or RHD makes big difference on Elan! no space on left side for the pipes to connect to the cylinder. The master cylinder is very closed to the body.
Umberto Ferrari
Modena - Italy
Elan Sprint 7108000193K
Elite SII #1319
umbyfer
Second Gear
Second Gear
 
Posts: 185
Joined: 03 Apr 2004

PostPost by: 2cams70 » Mon Jun 24, 2024 1:32 pm

umbyfer wrote:
2cams70 wrote:Physically looks exactly the same as Australian specification Mk 1 Escort with tandem circuit front drum brakes. Not sure about internal bore size - would have to check. LHD or RHD should make no difference - or is this assumption incorrect?
The same part described as being for a Ford is likely to be a lot cheaper and more readily available than one described as being for a Lotus!

LHD or RHD makes big difference on Elan! no space on left side for the pipes to connect to the cylinder. The master cylinder is very closed to the body.


I checked and Ford master cylinder is 0.75" bore so not suitable for Elan with 0.70" bore.
1970 Ford Escort Twin Cam
1972 Ford Escort GT1600 Twin Cam
1980 Ford Escort 2.0 Ghia
Peugeot 505 GTI Wagons (5spdx1) (Autox1)
2022 Ford Fiesta ST.
2cams70
Coveted Fifth Gear
Coveted Fifth Gear
 
Posts: 2160
Joined: 10 Jun 2015

PostPost by: rideaway » Mon Jun 24, 2024 1:49 pm

Hello Umberto,

This winter I converted my Elan S4 from RHD to LHD and kept the RHD twin master cylinder. It's quite tight but it fits.

If that helps.

Best Regards
Stéphane
User avatar
rideaway
First Gear
First Gear
 
Posts: 49
Joined: 21 Aug 2022

Total Online:

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests