Steering universal joint

PostPost by: reb53 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:24 am

For some reason the rubber washers have failed very quickly in my rebuilt UJ, not lasting for years like they did last time.
Does anyone know what car has a suitable needle bearing type?
I started on the archives but when I got to the suggestion that lots of Jap cars have 13mm ones, which are near enough to 1/2, and even though they have a different numbers of splines all you have to do is tighten them up really tight......
Apart from buggering the splines on both the column and the rack I knew I'd never trust it.
Anyone got any actual brand/model/year info on this ?

Otherwise I'll be back to grinding some new washers.
Thanks.
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PostPost by: StressCraxx » Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:46 am

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PostPost by: rgh0 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:39 am

The usual Lotus suppliers normally sell these Uj's also

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PostPost by: fatboyoz » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:54 am

Ralph,
I use these in the original U/J.

http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from ... k&_sacat=0

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reb53 wrote:For some reason the rubber washers have failed very quickly in my rebuilt UJ, not lasting for years like they did last time.
Does anyone know what car has a suitable needle bearing type?
I started on the archives but when I got to the suggestion that lots of Jap cars have 13mm ones, which are near enough to 1/2, and even though they have a different numbers of splines all you have to do is tighten them up really tight......
Apart from buggering the splines on both the column and the rack I knew I'd never trust it.
Anyone got any actual brand/model/year info on this ?

Otherwise I'll be back to grinding some new washers.
Thanks.
Ralph.
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PostPost by: TroonSprint » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:57 am

I bought a "proper" UJ from Kelvedon - ?38.60 including VAT.

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PostPost by: reb53 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:30 am

Thanks guys.
I shall start ringing around in the morning, might have found a place here so won't have to wait.

Cheers,
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PostPost by: Panda » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:22 pm

Hi Ralph,
I have used the Kelvedon joint and also a similar one to the joint that Stresscraxx recommends. The latter is definitely better quality and rotates as it should. The first one had the shafts slightly offset to each other.
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PostPost by: john.p.clegg » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:26 pm

Ralph
There's not a lot of room down there next to the bottom radiator hose and some u/js are larger than others,can't remember which u/j I used but do remember grinding off the radius surplus metal to clear the hose...

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PostPost by: mbell » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:01 pm

I recently bought one from British Victoria in the US for ~$50 its standard Triumph part. Was quite bulky more than expected, fitted fine on my +2 with it's radiator a more forward than standard. Not sure it would fit an Elan thou.
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PostPost by: billwill » Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:04 am

Remember to put a flexible copper wire from the nuts on the column to the chassis or other half of the U/J to ensure that the horn press will work.
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PostPost by: reb53 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:07 am

Thanks for all the replies.

I wasn't aware that there was a readily available one ex Herald/GT6/Vitesse etc.
Thought I'd be scratching around wreckers yards as usual....
Place in NZ had one. Ordered yesterday, arrived, and fitted, this morning, and MOT'd this afternoon.
Summer is under way !

Was expecting a huge thing that would be a pain to fit but, as can be seen from a photo I took of old and new types, it was a reasonable size and only about 1 cm longer.

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PostPost by: au-yt » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:31 am

If it helps I replaced the rubber washers with a flexane set. and replaced the bonding lead across the joint,.... bingo horn works

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PostPost by: gus » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:58 pm

yeah the horn works.......for a week

I messed with the original type for years on and off, real u-joint is the way to go,
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