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PostPost by: Elanconvert » Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:00 pm

ok...is it possible to replace the handbrake pads without removing the caliper from the car????/
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PostPost by: peterexpart » Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:17 pm

Do you have an Angle Grinder !!!
If so anything is possible !!
But the answer is yes, it is just a little bit of a pain
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PostPost by: types26/36 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:06 pm

.....and when you refit the clevis pins dont loose the small spacer bushes in the arms or you will have excess movement in the linkage.
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PostPost by: Elanconvert » Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:30 am

peterexpart wrote:Do you have an Angle Grinder !!!
If so anything is possible !!
But the answer is yes, it is just a little bit of a pain


right then.....removed the cetralising arms/springy things, and I have the handbrake mechanism arms [or are they legs?] pulled as far apart as possible, and the pads are free to move, but the disc seems to be getting in the way of removal.
I've tried pushing, pulling, levering, wiggling. twisting, tapping.......stopped short of the heavy hammer treatment.....I've even tried swearing [most unlike me :wink: ] to no avail...so is there some sneaky technique which is escaping me?
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PostPost by: john.p.clegg » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:36 am

Fred
The back of the pads have a slot and need to be pushed up to un-hook them (or if you have the operating arms pulled as far apart as possible-they need the pads pushing in )

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PostPost by: Elanconvert » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:48 am

thanks john...when you say 'pushed up' do you mean away from the disc, or parallel to the disc?
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PostPost by: john.p.clegg » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:29 am

They pivot at the top and so swing out,in the vertical position they should be pushed up,as you swing them out they should be pushed towards the pivot..

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PostPost by: billwill » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:54 pm

All will be obvious to you once you get one out, but UP means literally UP in a vertical direction, with the pad partly swung out.


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Road crud tends to accumulte in the slot, so when you push up, you will be trying to push crud & mud out of the slot.
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PostPost by: Elanconvert » Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:28 pm

hello bill.....
thanks for that...haven't been able even to look at things today [cricked my da**ed back :evil: ]...
still a bit confused....so isn't pushing 'up' ie parallel to the disc which is vertical, a bit difficult, as the slot which engages on the pin is horiontal [or seems to be from the illustrations]?
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PostPost by: john.p.clegg » Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:16 pm

Oooops...

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PostPost by: billwill » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:52 am

Elanconvert wrote:hello bill.....
thanks for that...haven't been able even to look at things today [cricked my da**ed back :evil: ]...
still a bit confused....so isn't pushing 'up' ie parallel to the disc which is vertical, a bit difficult, as the slot which engages on the pin is horiontal [or seems to be from the illustrations]?
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PostPost by: rgh0 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:10 am

Disconnect the adjuster link that joins the 2 halves of the handbrake assembly
Swing the halves out and away from the disk as far as you can, you should get them to approximately a 45 degree angle.
Use a screwdriver to lever the hooked end of the brake pad up and away from the pins they hook on and then you can pull the pads down and out of the halves of the assembly with a rotating motion so the hooked end clears the pin as they are withdrawn

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PostPost by: Elanconvert » Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:35 am

ok...thanks chaps..I think I've got it now ! hope I haven't tried your patience! [and I'm only on the handbrake :!: ]
don't know if my back will let me get under the car today.........
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PostPost by: rgh0 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:43 am

Don't worry - we are all the same and we are all here to learn :D
Get yourself a "Max Jax" It sure makes working under a car easier on the back and it fits in a standard garage

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PostPost by: Elanconvert » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:14 pm

thanks rohan.....[can't get 'max jax' in....1.9m headroom]

anyway, before my back reminded me quite sharply that I shouldn't be crawling under cars at the moment, the outside pad came out easily, but the inside one is still there....do I need to take off the spring.....?
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