Inner Rear Bearing Number

PostPost by: Frank Howard » Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:08 pm

I finally got the rear wheel bearings out. For the outer bearing, the Lotus part number is 36D6017 and the markings on it indicate that the bearing number is 6206. For the larger inner bearing, the Lotus part number is 36D6003 however there are no markings on it. I understand it is a Ford bearing. Does anyone know the bearing number for the inner bearing?
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PostPost by: crannyr » Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:18 pm

Frank,
I am very sure that the inner and outter bearing are the same (6206) at least in the post '70 Elans and +2. I know we use the same in all our cars ('64 Elan racer, '71 +2, '72 +2, and 72 Sprint) for the wide inner bearing on some housings a spacer is used to make up the difference.
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PostPost by: gerrym » Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:05 pm

Frank, outer bearing is a 6206-2RS the 2RS signifies the outer shields (SEALS)

inner bearing for +2 and issue 18 hubs (type 36 onwards) is SKF 412971B/TN/E101 or Ford 2925E-1225C (application Cortina 1300, 1500&1600 etc)

Above is quoted from Robinshaw & Ross

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PostPost by: Frank Howard » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:31 pm

Thanks Gerry. That's exactly what I was looking for. I've got the book. My "problem" is that I have so many Lotus books, I never know where to begin looking!
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PostPost by: gerrym » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:40 pm

Frank, the other bearing reference is RHP 37/130PP. RHP is now a subsidiary of NSK so might be worth checking with their stockists.

Bearing dimensions are 30mm ID, 62mm OD, Outer Race thickness 21mm, inner race thickness 24mm

These dimensions ar measured not from a catalogue so are approximate. These are shields (seals) at both ends

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PostPost by: garyeanderson » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:10 pm

I've done the bearing dance before and visited 2 or 3 of the local supply houses, the 6206-2RS is easy enough but the Cortina bearing was not. With fuel prices what they are and the suppliers wanting to see what I was looking at its easier to give Ray or Dave a call.
There is a steel dust shield on the outboard side of the Issue 18 uprights too so unless you can save that (somewhat doubtful) you will end up calling Ray or Dave anyway. New snap ring are sometime needed too if they have been in the housing since it left Lotus. I don't think you will save much money on this exercise and would only do it if Ray, Dave Frank, Jeff were all out of stock.

When I was redoing the rear wheel bearings on the 60 S1 Elite my local bearing supplier got me the Fiat sourced wheel bearing, luckily I had 3 and needed only 1 ($76). He said it was the only one in the U.S. that he could locate, if he couldn't get it he said there were over 300 in Europe and he would have given me the source as he didn't want to deal with it.

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PostPost by: andyhodg » Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:03 am

I have spentages talking to bearing suppliers trying to get hold of the inner bearing. The SKF number given in the Robinshaw book didn't help at all. I ended up buying the set from one of the usual suspects.

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PostPost by: gerrym » Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:14 pm

Spoke to Mark at Bearingkits.co.uk and he supplies Rear Axle bearings for later Cortina Mark 1s (post 1966).

These are the 62mm OD x 30mm ID x 21mm x 24mm as measured on the RHP bearings.

Bearings are genuine SKF ref 361954. Note that Chinese rubbish copies are also on the market at less than 1/4 price but could be a major false economy.
http://www.bearingkits.co.uk/product_in ... 8585351c1b

Mark doubts that the RHP bearings are still available.

Looking at the website he also seems to have 2000E gearbox parts, plus Lotus (Maxi) 5 speed bits.

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PostPost by: rgh0 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:36 am

I have used the SKF rear axle kits for the cortina for many years as the source of the inner bearings - you pay for a couple of spacers you dont need but cheaper to buy the kit containing 2 bearings and the cortina spacers than buy the bearings themselves individually - at least it has been in Australia

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PostPost by: reb53 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:42 am

Just had a look at the book in which I note down numbers etc. of parts installed and the numbers I have for the rear inner bearing are:

SKF 361964 ( 64 rather than 54 in the previous post. Don't know what, if any, difference. Or maybe I wrote it down wrong..........)

And a number I haven't seen yet,
SKF 2151165C.

Haven't phoned SKF to check these, might be rubbish after all these years.

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PostPost by: rgh0 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:00 am

Just dug out the box for the skf kit I use for the inner bearings

Rear Axle Kit 2767

listing sticker on box for which cars it suits are

Holden Torana 67 -74
Isuzu Gemini 75 -78
Vauxhall Viva 64-67 ( should be available matches in the Uk for this)
Toyota Corrolla 74 -83 with Borg Warner Axle (this may be Austalia only)


The sticker is probably Australian specific as i dont think this mix of cars was sold anywhere but Australia but can help for cross references

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PostPost by: stuartgb100 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:40 pm

Here's what I have in my records:

REAR WHEEL BEARING
Inner- SKF 361964 (S. Miller) 411546 (TTR) 411546 (Paul Matty)
Outer- SKF 6206.2RS1 (ditto) NSK 6206DDU (TTR) or
FAG 6206.2RSR.C3 <--- from Paul Matty

These suit the later type 18 issue struts.

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PostPost by: gerrym » Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:54 pm

SKF 361964 seems to be coming up as correct.
Here's some further application cross references
361964 FORD(Australia) 2925E1225AFORD(UK,
Germany) 70EG1225A1A 361964
361287   412971B/E101
(FKC) FORD 70EG 1225AA Consul,Corsar HILMAN 79198030 Avenger 1300, 1500, 1600cc Lotus 1600,1600GT,1600E HILMAN Avenger 1300,1500,1600 [REAR WHEEL]
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