Fitting an electric fuel pump

PostPost by: john.p.clegg » Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:56 pm

1) Saves the oil in your sump from being diluted with petrol when the seal goes...

2) Primes the carbs ready for first time starting...

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PostPost by: YellowS4DHC » Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:46 pm

Does anybody know if there is a measurable hp benefit to fitting an electric pump and removing the mechanical one? I've always wondered about that. I expect it to be small, but small things can add up.

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PostPost by: alexblack13 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:45 pm

Pistacchio sprint 72 wrote:I have a mechanical fuel pump on both my Caterham Xflow and on my Elan. What is exactly the benefit of going electric? I don't get it? :shock:



1) ... Removal of oil leaking mech' unit.

2) ... Carb' priming after engine not started for a month or two. (Not a summer issue of course)..

That's all for me. Had I not had the oil leak I would not be changing the pump. + The electric unit is cheaper apparently. Even the service kits are expensive to buy original ones..

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PostPost by: kstrutt11 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:23 pm

I even found in the summer it helps starting, the fuel in my carbs seems to evaporate off quite quickly. (dellortos).
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PostPost by: StressCraxx » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:40 am

YellowS4DHC wrote:Does anybody know if there is a measurable hp benefit to fitting an electric pump and removing the mechanical one? I've always wondered about that. I expect it to be small, but small things can add up.

Rick



Some Formula Ford racers claim a slight (less than 1HP) gain. 1HP is the limit for dyno accuracy though.
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PostPost by: Lincoln62 » Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:05 am

I bought this pump from a Weber specialist (in Melbourne) and it is very quiet. I tossed the original bracket and made my own so I could mount it in rubber.

Works fantastic.

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PostPost by: Bart_arc » Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:25 am

YellowS4DHC wrote:Does anybody know if there is a measurable hp benefit to fitting an electric pump and removing the mechanical one? I've always wondered about that. I expect it to be small, but small things can add up.

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You get rid of the mechanical (friction) losses when you use an electric pump but that won't gain much hp,
more important when you have a high reving engine (7000+) with big carbs you'll need a higher fuel flow rate to prevent starvation in the carbs.
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PostPost by: Pistacchio sprint 72 » Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:38 am

Thank you for the explanation. :wink:
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PostPost by: alexblack13 » Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:55 pm

Lincoln62 wrote:I bought this pump from a Weber specialist (in Melbourne) and it is very quiet. I tossed the original bracket and made my own so I could mount it in rubber.

Works fantastic.

Pete


Very neat and tidy Pete. Good job! Thank you for the pics too..

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PostPost by: alexblack13 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:17 pm

I have the new pump running now having finished the install today. I have to say it is indeed very quiet. Very difficult if not impossible to hear in drivers seat. Very subdued sort of low freq' Bbrrrrr type sound. I am impressed also with the flow at the carbs. Even with the st'd pump still fitted the flow looks excellent. I have the little regulator set to 2lb / sq". So far very good :wink:

I decided in the end to fit the ass'y to the front of the spare wheel well for ease of access as I like to store some bits n bobs in the wee Cubby hole to the right side of the tank. It's very handy. So not carrying a spare wheel I decided fit it where it's easy to reach and service when needed...

Question guys, ( Rohan?? ) .... Has anyone fitted a Crankcase vent / breather tube onto the blanking plate covering the hole where the mechie pump comes off? I was thinking of fitting a pipe from the plate up to the air box, possibly even 'T' ing into the existing breather pipe from head to air-box. Any thoughts? Good idea? Or don't do it! What do you think lads?


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PostPost by: john.p.clegg » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:30 pm

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Does it have a swivel head??

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PostPost by: alexblack13 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:07 pm

Had I bought it myself it would have had John. But beggars cant be choosers eh!

One can maniplate the image via the laptop though. I am very happy with it. :)

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PostPost by: Quart Meg Miles » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:06 pm

alexblack13 wrote:Question guys, ( Rohan?? ) .... Has anyone fitted a Crankcase vent / breather tube onto the blanking plate covering the hole where the mechie pump comes off? I was thinking of fitting a pipe from the plate up to the air box, possibly even 'T' ing into the existing breather pipe from head to air-box. Any thoughts? Good idea? Or don't do it! What do you think lads?
It's a bit of an active area around there, lots of oil flying about off the con rods so I wouldn't do it. The standard breather position is in a pretty quiet place, especially if you're going to feed it into the air box.

BTW, which pump did you actually use? Several people have loosely quoted the make, like Facet, but not the model.
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PostPost by: alexblack13 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:13 pm

It is the Facet POSI FLOW... I have some pic's up showing the ass'y of pump and the small reg that suits it perfectly. Check out page 2... :wink:

More or less what I thought regards the breather.. Thanks bud..

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PostPost by: billwill » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:54 am

Not quite what you were asking, but look at my experimental breather vent in the last message on thiis page:

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