Best US source for making up new Weber fuel line?

PostPost by: pcarew » Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:41 am

I've retro fitted an proper AC Fuel pump to my Elan and now find that the fuel line I had from the 'non AC' pump no longer fits, due to the 'pump out' fitting being a different angle (it looks like about a 45degree diff. between the two pumps).

So, now I need to make up a new fuel harness from the AC Pump to the Webers (including new Banjos etc).
The local car parts shops doesn't seem to have what I need.

Any recommendations?

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PostPost by: 2cams70 » Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:13 am

What is it about you USA guys that a lot of you seem to resist at any cost purchasing parts from the UK which is the birthplace and natural home of these cars? It’s an Aladdin’s cave in the UK and for small parts especially shipping isn’t that expensive surely??
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PostPost by: wdb » Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:22 am

Pegasus sells Weber fittings and fuel line.
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PostPost by: StressCraxx » Sat Dec 07, 2024 4:30 am

2cams70 wrote:What is it about you USA guys that a lot of you seem to resist at any cost purchasing parts from the UK which is the birthplace and natural home of these cars? It’s an Aladdin’s cave in the UK and for small parts especially shipping isn’t that expensive surely??


We have suppliers on both coasts, including RD Enterprises, Dave Bean Engineering and JAE Parts. These small businesses can survive only with our support.
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PostPost by: pcarew » Sat Dec 07, 2024 6:33 am

2cams70 wrote:What is it about you USA guys that a lot of you seem to resist at any cost purchasing parts from the UK which is the birthplace and natural home of these cars? It’s an Aladdin’s cave in the UK and for small parts especially shipping isn’t that expensive surely??

Well speaking as a Brit. who currently lives in Texas :-) I have bought many a part from Sue Miller, Kelvedon, Paul Matty and others over the years and also as recently as last month!

The only issue I have is the $40+ that I have to spend in shippong costs every time.

I was really hoping to be able to build a fuel harness out of parts sourced locally this time as it's not really Lotus specific.

I have emailed Ray at RDEnt, but i'm sure thats a pretty penny there too.

Surely I should be able to build something lile this from fuel line and fittings.

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PostPost by: rgh0 » Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:01 am

Cut the fittings off you old fuel lines and buy some new fuel hose and clamps and make your own. i have never liked the standard style braided fuel line with crimped on fittings as you cant see the hose condition underneath.

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PostPost by: alan.barker » Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:29 am

I would say someone has rebuilt your new Fuel Pump and assembled wrong.
Some Diaphraphm rebuild Kits are not orientated correctly. I've had this problem in the past.
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PostPost by: 512BB » Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:49 am

'Well speaking as a Brit. who currently lives in Texas'

Come back home Paul, all will be forgiven. You know you want to. :lol:

'due to the 'pump out' fitting being a different angle (it looks like about a 45degree diff. between the two pumps)'

I am not sure if you are talking about a separate fitting in the out hole here, or if the top half of the pump body just needs moving round a hole or two.

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PostPost by: alan.barker » Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:35 am

The problem is the Diaphragm is "staked" at the wrong angle to the flat part on the Actuating Rod. I've got some crap examples gathering dust in my Garage lol
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PostPost by: tonyabacus » Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:26 am

I think the cost of moving parts from the US to the UK has now become a bigger issue than it was once, especially when getting small more common parts that may already exist on vehicles elsewhere. In some cases the shipping can cost more than the part itself.

One solution I have suggested previously is that we have a section on the forum where those travelling back and forth may be able to post their up and coming journeys, with an offer to bring small parts back with them, or indeed take parts across to the US.

I recently had the good fortune to find a member who did just that. He gave me a postal address he would be at in the US, the parts were ordered, delivered and paid for and subsequently arrived back here in the UK. It was only a matter then of paying him (he would not accept any additional payment for doing this) for sending the parcel on to me.

Given the difficulty sometimes experienced by forum members where there is little Lotus coverage, this would help them to keep their cars on the road.

Perhaps we could use the main forum discussion topic with a generic title such as "Travelling To (or From) UK/USA" as a headed to offer the facility.
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PostPost by: SENC » Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:58 pm

Agree with Rohan - salvage the existing fittings and replace the hose. Do buy a quality hose, though, there is a lot of cheap rubber that will break down quicker than you'd like (though, as R stated, at least you'll see it and can replace it). I like the Gates Barricade hoses. They have low pressure and high pressure (fuel inj), either would work in our case so I'd pick up whichever is available locally and cheaper. A bit stiffer than cheap rubber fuel lines, but they'll stand up to modern fuels with ethanol (should you have to use that) and are also less permeable (fewer gas vapors in the garage).
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PostPost by: wdb » Sat Dec 07, 2024 2:56 pm

As mentioned earlier, Pegasus has a lot of Weber bits. You can build an exact replica of your current setup if you like, or go with AN fittings (probably what I'd do) if you want to keep the SS braided lines. They also sell high quality fuel line by the foot. I'm a happy customer of theirs after the exceptional job they did helping me build out a dry sump system for a twincam Caterham.

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PostPost by: h20hamelan » Sat Dec 07, 2024 4:14 pm

Pegasus is likely rebranded Fairview or generic fittings, Gates is a good USA brand.
Your local fittings/hydraulic shop has or can get these
Fuel injection clamps seem much more clean

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PostPost by: pcarew » Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:19 pm

rgh0 wrote:Cut the fittings off you old fuel lines and buy some new fuel hose and clamps and make your own....
Rohan

Hello Rohan,
This is a good suggestion. I will at the very least need a new pump fitting on account that I tried to straighten the bend and squished it :-( (what a twit I am :-) )

alan.barker wrote:I would say someone has rebuilt your new Fuel Pump and assembled wrong.
Alan

Yeah, that would be me. I wished I'd thought ahead and maybe rotated the top half a screw position counterclockwise before I tried 'straightening the pump fitting in my wooden vise (see above 'twit' reference :-) )

512BB wrote:'Well speaking as a Brit. who currently lives in Texas'
Come back home Paul, all will be forgiven. You know you want to. :lol:
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You never know. I only ever though that I would be in the US for 12-18 months....that was 37 years ago :D :D

512BB wrote:'due to the 'pump out' fitting being a different angle (it looks like about a 45degree diff. between the two pumps)'

I am not sure if you are talking about a separate fitting in the out hole here, or if the top half of the pump body just needs moving round a hole or two.
Leslie


Yea, I wished I'd taken two seconds to think that through before I just tried straightening the 45deg bend in the fitting.....again see above twit reference :-)
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PostPost by: prezoom » Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:21 am

Any good auto parts house can supply fuel injection hose here in the US. It is compatible with ethanol and will not turn into a soaker hose over time. The fuel injection type clamps are a far better choice of clamps, as they do not cut into hose.
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