Manual choke conversion for Federal CD-175's?

PostPost by: JGeezer » Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:29 pm

I was hoping to just can this awful automatic smog choke mess:

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and I found a CD-175-2 really cheap on eBay, with a manual choke on it. I hoped it could be adapted, but now I see the CD-175-2 has this passage:

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that goes all the way though to behind the throttle plate:

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while the CD-175 has that blocked off completely:

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so this approach is not going to work.

Anybody out there have a manual choke conversion for federal CD-175's?
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PostPost by: oldelanman » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:15 am

Rather than starting with your existing carb and trying to fit the choke assembly from your "new" one could you perhaps do it the other way round - fit the air valve and cover assembly and any linkage bits necessary from your "old" to the "new" carb body ? You might need to change the jet as well, particularly if it is worn.

No idea if this approach is practical but might be worth a try having got this far.
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PostPost by: JGeezer » Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:38 pm

Yeah, I've been thinking (you know, what one does at 3 AM) about doing exactly that.

First, it would serve me right for getting the old CD-175's almost rebuilt already!

I know nothing of the CD-175-2 provenance, but I guess if I swap in the needle & seat I shouldn't have to worry about imbalance too much. I see a number of other minor differences, such as the CD-175-2 not having the vent valve for the float chamber, also for emissions:

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This is so when the throttle is closed vapors go to the line to the carbon canister. Grrr - It was absolutely frozen solid and it took me hours to get it cleaned up and freely working! I has started with these rough beasts:

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There's also no linkage on the manual choke for the CD-175-2, as in this pic I found:

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just this:

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I'm getting that impending nightmare feeling again :roll: .
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PostPost by: JGeezer » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:51 pm

Everybody ready for something insane? I've converted the CD-175 emissions carb to a manual choke using the choke parts from the CD-175-2. :shock:

To do this, I had to drill out three passages that were left blocked in the emissions carb, including this long one

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and add a fuel pickup extension using a bit of 3/16" brass tubing. Luckily, I'm far removed from the engine being able to run that I won't know what an idiot I am for awhile yet. :roll:
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