Starter motor on 711M block

[HCA]

Hope this is an easy one...

I have a note, but cannot read my own writing concerning starter motor for a 711M block concerning fitment.

Is the position of the starter motor the same for pre and crossflow? In my note I have the words 'cut off third bolt' and not a clue why I wrote it...)

In short, I am using a 711M block, long stroke 6B2D crankshaft, standard flywheel and ring gear. There should not be any issues bolting in my pre-crossflow hi torque starter motor, no?

[Lyn7]

The later Ford starter motors were three bolt mounting flange. They are interchangeable in my experience.
It's a bit tight in that area on an Elan and sometimes the third bolt hole/flange will foul on the chassis.
On an original bellhousing there is of course no third hole.
Cheers, Lyn..

[rgh0]

I use a later 3 bolt Bosch preengage starter from Ford Escorts fitted with a 9 tooth pinion on both my Elan and Plus 2. I cut off the lug for the third bolt to provide clearance with the body.

cheers
Rohan

[HCA]

I vaguely remember now - it was following a thread where this was the case. I made a hasty note on a post-it, but thought something else was involved regarding flywheel size. Maybe not. I shall continue as is!

[2cams70]

I note you say that you are using a standard flywheel. Is that a 711M standard flywheel or a LTC standard flywheel?
They are different.

[HCA]

OK, thanks, you have helped jog my memory!
I have now worked out my writing! And yes, it is all about what flywheel and starter to use. So please let me start again:

I am using an un-decked 711M block for the new engine. This is to bolt onto a Lotus bell housing supplied by Alan Voigt with an internal centre thrust bearing.

Some comments in the past say that the 711M type flywheel can/does foul the bell housing and that I should use an original Twin Cam flywheel Is this correct please???

Now my note:
With a standard 6 bolt 2 dowel Lotus flywheel and clutch on the 711M, Do I need to change the starter motor???

In other words, is the ring gear the same for a Lotus standard flywheel and a 711M cross flow flywheel?

[2cams70]

Suggest you don't use a 711M flywheel on a LTC. It's too heavy and the clutch pressure plate mounting bolt PCD will be incorrect for a LTC clutch. If you don't have an original LTC flywheel your best bet is to obtain a standard pattern steel replacement from Burton or QED.

[HCA]

I have, or will have soon, a standard twin cam flywheel !

I know it is lighter, but is it the same diameter?

[Lyn7]

Yes the diameter of the flywheels are the same. It is the pcd for the pressure plate that is different for the different clutches. You could use the x flow flywheel and lighten it. You could re drill for the twin cam pressure plate to fit. Your choices.

[HCA]

Thanks Lyn. If the diams are the same, then ergo the starter pinion c/l is common, so I do not know why I made a note of using a three bolt starter...

(I will be using a standard flywheel as QED can get them machined for a trigger. I am waiting several months for it to arrive though!