Lifting a Twincam

PostPost by: handi_andi » Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:37 pm

Hiya
I need to take the engine out of my plus 2 and I was wondering what the best way to sling it is? The head is off at the moment and also can not decide whether i would be best building engine back up before refitting or putting head and carbs back on in situ, any words of advice out there?
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PostPost by: elanman999 » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:02 pm

Andy,
I've no doubt you will get lots of different methods suggested but I sling my engine with two slings, one at the rear just in front of the flywheel and the other at the front under the front crank seal.
As I am often working by myself I always take the head off first and put it back on when the block is in the car.

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PostPost by: neilsjuke » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:26 pm

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16638375@N ... 202952079/

For me I like to build on a engine stand so you can turn it 360 and less of a chance of doing something to the paintwork on the car
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PostPost by: john.p.clegg » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:14 pm

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I'd put the head on first,there's no more back breaking work than a head job on a Lotus in situ.....as for the sling I prefer side to side,not fore and aft, round the engine mountings...

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PostPost by: frearther » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:58 pm

john.p.clegg wrote:Andi
I'd put the head on first,there's no more back breaking work than a head job on a Lotus in situ.....as for the sling I prefer side to side,not fore and aft, round the engine mountings...

John :wink:


I vote for this arrangement, too. The exhaust side of the block has two 3/8" tapped holes that you can use on that side. A sling around the intake runners works on the other side.
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PostPost by: gerrym » Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:07 pm

Andi, my tip if using an engine crane is to make sure there is a proper swivel in the lifting hook. The cranes as supplied have a hook which is fitted to a chain and the load will always want to rotate. A real pain in the proverbial.
Also, it's about time someone invented a remote valve for the hydraulic ram...any ideas out there.
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PostPost by: freddy22112211 » Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:38 pm

If the sling goes through the center of the inlet ports (head on obviously), the engine, without gearbox, is approximately balanced fore and aft and can be easily angled downwards when refitting.
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PostPost by: handi_andi » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:44 pm

An interesting technique Gordon and thanks for the diagram. One thing I had thought about doing was to screw lifting eyes into 4 of the head bolt holes. Has anyone tried this and does anyone know what the size and thread is? Plus any comments?
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PostPost by: reb53 » Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:54 am

This is probably worth a read.

elan-plus-f13/how-remove-engine-t16246.html

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PostPost by: handi_andi » Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:00 am

Thanks Ralph, that thread gives allot of food for thought.
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PostPost by: neilsjuke » Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:29 am

reply to your Mail

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16638375@N ... 202952079/

Andy heres the pics above of the stand bracket the hook bolts on to the rear exhaust studs ,As I like to have two ropes one round the front pully fixied and the one round the rear the hook stop the rope slipping this alow the angle to be change with the help of a jack under the sump
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PostPost by: Foxie » Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:42 pm

handi_andi wrote:Hiya
....also can not decide whether i would be best building engine back up before refitting or putting head and carbs back on in situ, any words of advice out there?
Thanks
Andy

I used to find it much more convenient to replace the head, time the cams and ignition, replace the exhaust, assemble engine and gearbox, and replace as a complete unit. Dropping the propshaft gives a bit more angle. :D

Fully removeable engine mounts and cross member on Spyder chasssis helps, as does concentric slave clutch release .

However the projecting reverse detent in the centre of the T9 gearbox cover plate now catches on the forward end of the transmission tunnel. This can be removed when removing engine/gb, put must be oriented in place when refitting.

Removing/ refitting with sump off gives more clearance, but careful with the oil pick-up :mrgreen:
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PostPost by: cabc26b » Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:54 pm

Andy

I prefer the engine and gearbox as a unit. I use a medium duty tie down strap to run a loop from #3 intake runner to thermostat housing. -see picture - right or wrong this has always worked for me...

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PostPost by: davea » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:04 pm

As the Guvnor (ACBC) used to say, (paraphrasing here) a 1/4 inch bolt suffices to lift a London Bus.

So using one threaded hole in the block bolting something firmly to the block to run a chain
to is sufficient strength-wise.

With the head still on during removal/installation I found the hardest job was to keep the oil filler cap
from rubbing against the body and harming the paint. And I did not totally succeed :-(
Second hardest was installing the exhaust down-pipes during re-installation.

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PostPost by: paddy » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:26 pm

davea wrote:Second hardest was installing the exhaust down-pipes during re-installation.


That's definitely a top tip, if the you have the later tubular manifold. Do not fit the alternator or the exhaust-side engine mount prior to dropping the engine into place. Then loosely fit the exhaust manifold; then you can fit the engine mounts and everything else.

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