Odd Puffs Of Smoke

[tdafforn]

Hi guys,
Ever since I have owned my +2 (3 years) I have had an intermitently smokey exhaust. It generally doesn't smoke excessively, and doesn't smoke on start up. Just at the odd time when I stop in traffic I can see it in my rear view mirror. The engine runs with good oil pressure (>30Psi at idle) and the compressions are within 5lbs across the 4 cylinders (average of 180lbs). The compression is unchanged when I add oil to the cylinders. The head was rebuilt by the previous owner <10000 miles ago and I have a reciept which includes new guides and seats. The only other thing I have noticed is that when I see smoking at the rear I also get a puff out of the engine breather (Observed when running without it attached). I think the smoke is oil smoke although it is not intense enough to really tell, although the guy who MOT'd it thought it was running a little rich.
At the moment I am not too concerned as it isn't effecting the performance, and next winter may be engine rebuild winter anyway!
Anyone have any thoughts?
Cheers
Tim

[Alasdair]

If you have a brake servo, could very well be brake fluid as it can be drawn in cylinder after a stop, puff of smoke on take off.

Overhaul time for servo perhaps?

Alasdair.

[types26/36]

T.C. engines have large clearances combined with modern engines and that includes pistons and valves, in standard form there are no valve seals and unless you want to follow the route Keith has described in other posts it is unlikly you will get a totally smoke free exhaust, you probably do have a little valve/guide wear but if the car is not useing excessive oil dont worry about it.
One other point, if the brake servo is passing brake fluid into its vacuum chamber you can also get smoke (white) but you should see the fluid level going down.
Brian.

[Hegg]

If it helps, mine does the same. I received similar responses that it's a common occurence due to larger clearances and no seals and all that.

My smoke is dark, not white. Oil seems to stay high for an acceptable amount of time (given the other leaks I have on the block, but that's another story).

[tdafforn]

Hegg,
Thanks for that, makes me feel a lot better...
Servo is fine ( and pretty new)
Cheers
Tim

[steveww]

A little bit of smoke is quite normal. No valve guide seals don't forget. Just keep an eye on oil usage, they are supposed to burn a bit, I think the manual gives figures for this???? Don't forget to allow for the oil falling out of the bottom

[tdafforn]

Hi,
Thanks for all the suggestions,
I am currently running 20 50 castrol.
decided to Spend some of the weekend driving the +2 and monitoring the smoke. Observations are:
Doesn't seem to be smoking any more!
Only change was to lean out the mixture a little as she seemed to be running a little rich.
Mixture screws at 1 1/2 turns out and she runs fine which makes me think the idle jets are a little fat?
Changed to the next richer jets from stock when I got the car as it seemed to be always running lean (lots of poping from the carbs). Rebuilt the carbs this winter, and now perhaps we're running too rich.
Also have noticed that the engine seems to return to idle from revs a little slower eg. 1300 -700 rpm in 4-5secs, springs are all tight, anyone any ideas?
Will put the leaner jets in anyway.

Still get a reasonable amount of smoke from the crank breather, but have plumbed it back to the air box.
Cheers
Tim

[Hamish Coutts]

Folks,

As a general rule -

Black smoke - too much fuel
Blue smoke - oil
White smoke - probably brake fluid

Hamish.

[steveww]

I thought is was

Black smoke - too much fuel
Blue smoke -oil
White smoke - Red Arrows

[Matt7c]

I don't understand (again!). How does the brake fluid make white smoke, and where does it come from? :blink:

[types26/36]

If the seals in the servo cylinder become defective the fluid gets drawn into the vacuum chamber and then gets sucked into the inlet manifold......white smoke.
Brian