Cam Cover Paint
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Good Afternoon,
In the process of stripping my engine at the mom. The cam cover is crackle finish in red and I would like to know if the VHT Red Wrinkle Paint, available from Frosts (see - http://www.frost.co.uk/vht-red-wrinkle-finish-310ml.html?gclid=CN3C9OuB28cCFWrkwgodbdsJiQ), is a good colour match?
Miles Wilkins' states the paint used is Poppy Red and supplied by Trimite (and stove enameled - now powder coat?), has anyone gone down this route and who did the work here in the UK? Cost?
Cheers,
In the process of stripping my engine at the mom. The cam cover is crackle finish in red and I would like to know if the VHT Red Wrinkle Paint, available from Frosts (see - http://www.frost.co.uk/vht-red-wrinkle-finish-310ml.html?gclid=CN3C9OuB28cCFWrkwgodbdsJiQ), is a good colour match?
Miles Wilkins' states the paint used is Poppy Red and supplied by Trimite (and stove enameled - now powder coat?), has anyone gone down this route and who did the work here in the UK? Cost?
Cheers,
Karl
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fasterbyelan - Second Gear
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Karl,
I had my cam cover done by Redditch Shotblasting. It is powder coated, not painted, I can't vouch for the colour, it looks correct to me, and this company apparently does work for Paul Matty. I hate doing paintwork which is the main reason I chose them. They also did my chassis, as they were the nearest people with an oven large enough who had also done Lotus chassis before.
I am about 125 miles from Redditch.
Richard Hawkins
I had my cam cover done by Redditch Shotblasting. It is powder coated, not painted, I can't vouch for the colour, it looks correct to me, and this company apparently does work for Paul Matty. I hate doing paintwork which is the main reason I chose them. They also did my chassis, as they were the nearest people with an oven large enough who had also done Lotus chassis before.
I am about 125 miles from Redditch.
Richard Hawkins
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Just obtained the price from Redditch Shotblasting - ?65 + vat. You need to arrange delivery/collection. Only caveat is that the colour is more red than the original Poppy Red. I think I will give the VHT paint a go, others I know speak well of it.
Karl
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I did my 1969 Elan cam cover in the original Trimite Poppy Red in the early 1990's.
It was indeed a stove enamel: Trimite provided me with a 1litre sample F.O.C. from their trade counter in Leeds and it was applied by Sherwood Coatings in Brighouse, which cost about ?20.
Sherwood had to have a couple of goes to get the viscosity right, which used up nearly all of what I had, but to be fair they were very helpful, they really put themselves out, the quality was excellent and the cam cover still looks good today in 2016.
On another note, I've been back to Sherwoods a couple of times to try get some powder coating done in 2014 on some wheels & there isn't a barge pole long enough that I would be prepared to touch them with; different crew & haven't got a clue.
I went back a few years later to try get hold of some more Poppy Red for a friends cam cover & Trimite informed me that the range had been 'rationalised' and that Poppy Red wasn't available any more - I don't know if that's still the case in 2016. At the time, the only red wrinkle paint I could obtain was from Bill McGraths (Maserati) and it was nothing like the same colour, it is a much deeper red almost like MG Tartan red.
From what I can see of the Frost colour in your photos, it looks pretty close colour match, not bad at all.
If you're still struggling & want to get a close as you can, it might be worth looking the the US custom scene to see if you can import something from there.
Cheers
David Croft
It was indeed a stove enamel: Trimite provided me with a 1litre sample F.O.C. from their trade counter in Leeds and it was applied by Sherwood Coatings in Brighouse, which cost about ?20.
Sherwood had to have a couple of goes to get the viscosity right, which used up nearly all of what I had, but to be fair they were very helpful, they really put themselves out, the quality was excellent and the cam cover still looks good today in 2016.
On another note, I've been back to Sherwoods a couple of times to try get some powder coating done in 2014 on some wheels & there isn't a barge pole long enough that I would be prepared to touch them with; different crew & haven't got a clue.
I went back a few years later to try get hold of some more Poppy Red for a friends cam cover & Trimite informed me that the range had been 'rationalised' and that Poppy Red wasn't available any more - I don't know if that's still the case in 2016. At the time, the only red wrinkle paint I could obtain was from Bill McGraths (Maserati) and it was nothing like the same colour, it is a much deeper red almost like MG Tartan red.
From what I can see of the Frost colour in your photos, it looks pretty close colour match, not bad at all.
If you're still struggling & want to get a close as you can, it might be worth looking the the US custom scene to see if you can import something from there.
Cheers
David Croft
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pharriso wrote:I used VHT sourced from Summit racing in the States. Came up really nice:
Wife wasn't too chuffed with the over-spray though...
Phil, how did you mask the clear aluminum from the painted areas?
Glen
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Certified Lotus wrote:
Phil, how did you mask the clear aluminum from the painted areas?
You don't:
I painted everything, then used a sharp plate to remove most of the material on the Ribs & Text, then finally sanded.
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pharriso wrote:Certified Lotus wrote:
Phil, how did you mask the clear aluminum from the painted areas?
You don't:
I painted everything, then used a sharp plate to remove most of the material on the Ribs & Text, then finally sanded.
Phil, so simple and well executed!
Glen
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Trust me.....
Get your cam covers done by Redditch Shot blasting in the Midlands the quality is fantastic, cheap too. With a quick turn around. A far far better finish than a rattle can..
No connection just a super service.
Cheers
Mark
Get your cam covers done by Redditch Shot blasting in the Midlands the quality is fantastic, cheap too. With a quick turn around. A far far better finish than a rattle can..
No connection just a super service.
Cheers
Mark
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Nice results but a bit far away for those of us located in the US
Glen
05 Elise - Back where I started
65 Elan S2 - 26/4055
72 Europa - 74/2358R
69 Elan S4 - 45/7941
64 Elan S1 - 26/0379
12 Colin 30 - Lotus Racing Kart
07 Exige S - Wicked Road/Track Car
07 Exige S - Fast Road/Track Car
06 Elise - Track pack
05 Elise - Back where I started
65 Elan S2 - 26/4055
72 Europa - 74/2358R
69 Elan S4 - 45/7941
64 Elan S1 - 26/0379
12 Colin 30 - Lotus Racing Kart
07 Exige S - Wicked Road/Track Car
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pharriso wrote:I used VHT sourced from Summit racing in the States. Came up really nice:
Wife wasn't too chuffed with the over-spray though...
Phil, the only red VHT spray paint at Summit is "Chevy Orange". Is that what you used?
Glen
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72 Europa - 74/2358R
69 Elan S4 - 45/7941
64 Elan S1 - 26/0379
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07 Exige S - Wicked Road/Track Car
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65 Elan S2 - 26/4055
72 Europa - 74/2358R
69 Elan S4 - 45/7941
64 Elan S1 - 26/0379
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Glen, this is what I used - https://www.summitracing.com/parts/vht-sp204?seid=srese1&cm_mmc=pla-google-_-shopping-_-srese1-_-vht&gclid=CjwKEAiA1vjCBRDd-9q3w4OF6WUSJACWv_sVMmliy_MYu8gSnDr-qYSKNyfeCLPPo-OA5XnPXQK-ehoCUSfw_wcB
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Thanks Phil!
Glen
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64 Elan S1 - 26/0379
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07 Exige S - Wicked Road/Track Car
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06 Elise - Track pack
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65 Elan S2 - 26/4055
72 Europa - 74/2358R
69 Elan S4 - 45/7941
64 Elan S1 - 26/0379
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