120E OIL PICK UP
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People, got a bit of memory fade here its a while since I did a 120E rebuild and cant remember if we fit a seal where the oil pick up screws into the block? I don't think so but in the back of my mind there is an image of a copper washer going in there
It does have the sleeve in the end of the pipe.
It does have the sleeve in the end of the pipe.
Brian
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types26/36 - Coveted Fifth Gear
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Hi Brian
I saw your post after I got home from Uncle Carl's. He helps me out when I need it and I had a bad fuel tank and needed an expert opinion and he has the heat to make good on the repairs.
My question was solder or braze for the repair and the answer was braze, no pictures yet as the camera was at home, I may have a before but its on the other computer so I am not going to get those pictures. Any way I dug out some pickups for the 4 bolt blocks with the screw in oil pickups. I have a few and there seem to be 2 types one with an olive that is inserted into the pickup tube (these can be unidentified by a swollen section of the pickup pipe under the screw in nut).
This is the other style with no olive, I don't know what the correct application is for each of these but my S2 that I bought in 1976 had the pickup with the nut all of the way toward the block (photo below) in it when I took it apart back in the spring.
Both styles
I guess it's time for my opinion, I am tired and my mind remembers things about like yours does at times but I do not believe that there is a copper washer. I looked in the 1962 Cortina parts book and it only lists the pickup and the lock ring. I could not find it in the Lotus S1, S2 and Coupe parts book so thats the best I can do.
I like to be helped and I got that help today, I hope this helps you. This forum is a kind of pay it forward system, it the only one I know and that what keeps me hanging around on this forum even when it feels like the wind is blowing the piss back all over me.
I saw your post after I got home from Uncle Carl's. He helps me out when I need it and I had a bad fuel tank and needed an expert opinion and he has the heat to make good on the repairs.
My question was solder or braze for the repair and the answer was braze, no pictures yet as the camera was at home, I may have a before but its on the other computer so I am not going to get those pictures. Any way I dug out some pickups for the 4 bolt blocks with the screw in oil pickups. I have a few and there seem to be 2 types one with an olive that is inserted into the pickup tube (these can be unidentified by a swollen section of the pickup pipe under the screw in nut).
This is the other style with no olive, I don't know what the correct application is for each of these but my S2 that I bought in 1976 had the pickup with the nut all of the way toward the block (photo below) in it when I took it apart back in the spring.
Both styles
I guess it's time for my opinion, I am tired and my mind remembers things about like yours does at times but I do not believe that there is a copper washer. I looked in the 1962 Cortina parts book and it only lists the pickup and the lock ring. I could not find it in the Lotus S1, S2 and Coupe parts book so thats the best I can do.
I like to be helped and I got that help today, I hope this helps you. This forum is a kind of pay it forward system, it the only one I know and that what keeps me hanging around on this forum even when it feels like the wind is blowing the piss back all over me.
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garyeanderson - Coveted Fifth Gear
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Never seen a copper washer in all the 120E blocks I have dismantled, many of which were unmolested blocks out of Cortinas. I also have a pile of both types of pick up with or without the olive. I guess at some point Ford changed to delete the olive fitting and use a longer compression nut straight onto the flared end of pipe to save on parts count and money? Both types work OK and the block threaded hole itself did not appear to change from memory ( though I would have to check all my spare blocks to confirm that) so either type should fit in all blocks -- just dont mix them up and use the olive on the fitting that is not designed for it or leave off the olive on the fitting designed for it.
regards
Rohan
regards
Rohan
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rgh0 - Coveted Fifth Gear
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Thanks for the replies, I have the other type of pick up without the sleeve (olive) as well, I?m building an engine from my spare parts so its a ?bitsa?.
Just thought I remembered a copper type ?crush washer? in there but my memory must be playing tricks if no one else has seen it.
Just thought I remembered a copper type ?crush washer? in there but my memory must be playing tricks if no one else has seen it.
Brian
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