Oil change

PostPost by: rmd24 » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:29 pm

My car is slightly overdue for an engine oil change at 5000 miles. I am using Millers Classic 20/50. Is an oil change needed at 3000 miles (according to the servicing schedule) when using this oil? Also I'd be keen to know any recommendations for gearbox oil, any decent EP80?

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PostPost by: fatboyoz » Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:58 am

Roger,
I am using Penrite Classic Light (20W60) which is probably much the same as the Millers oil. I have just changed the oil for the forth time since an engine rebuild. The first oil fill was with running-in oil. The second was with the Classic light and left in for 2000 miles. The third was left in for 3000 miles. When I drained the oil after 3000 miles, it appeared to be quite grotty, so have decided to settle on 2000 mile changes. Definitely wouldn't push it out to 5000. An overhaul is very expensive, clean oil is cheap insurance for a long life. I also have a Filtermag that I swap whenever I do a filter change. http://www.agriemach.com/product_info.p ... gum3poaqq0
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rmd24 wrote:My car is slightly overdue for an engine oil change at 5000 miles. I am using Millers Classic 20/50. Is an oil change needed at 3000 miles (according to the servicing schedule) when using this oil? Also I'd be keen to know any recommendations for gearbox oil, any decent EP80?

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PostPost by: Galwaylotus » Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:38 am

Millers "Classic" says it all. It's a dino oil same as was used when the car was designed so it requires frequent changes. I wouldn't go more than the recommended 3k miles (or one year, whichever comes first).
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PostPost by: rmd24 » Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:29 am

Galwaylotus wrote:Millers "Classic" says it all. It's a dino oil same as was used when the car was designed so it requires frequent changes. I wouldn't go more than the recommended 3k miles (or one year, whichever comes first).


Thanks for the info. I used Millers Classic as a result of several recommendations when I bought the car. Is there a better alternative?

I have used Redline in a Caterham six speed box and the improvement was marked.

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PostPost by: alexblack13 » Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:54 am

Is there not a new Millers 20/60 semi synth out now? Not checked it out yet but it sounds like a good choice if there is..

I'll keep my ears pinned... Listening out.

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PostPost by: ardee_selby » Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:13 am

alexblack13 wrote:Is there not a new Millers 20/60 semi synth out now? Not checked it out yet but it sounds like a good choice if there is..

I'll keep my ears pinned... Listening out.

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This one?

http://www.millersoils.net/M3_cgi/mille ... t&cart_id=

Can't see a direct reference to zddp, but presumably the following still applies:

Ref: http://www.millersoils.net/1_Millers_r_AUTO_ZDDP.htm
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PostPost by: alexblack13 » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:30 am

Yes! Thanks Richard. I had not looked for it yet but I had breifly looked at it at one of the shows..

What do you think?

Anyone tried it?

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PostPost by: ardee_selby » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:43 am

alexblack13 wrote:Yes! Thanks Richard. I had not looked for it yet but I had breifly looked at it at one of the shows..

What do you think?

Anyone tried it?

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"Competition" formulation for "long distance events" (as opposed to 3000 miles between oil changes?) but intended to be changed more frequently? After each event? What do you racing guys do?

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PostPost by: bcmc33 » Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:27 pm

alexblack13 wrote:Is there not a new Millers 20/60 semi synth out now? Not checked it out yet but it sounds like a good choice if there is..

I'll keep my ears pinned... Listening out.

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I use Millers CCS 20w/50 semi-synthetic - as recommended by the Matty mechanics.
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PostPost by: alexblack13 » Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:00 pm

That'll do me!!

Ordered...

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PostPost by: Robbie693 » Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:18 pm

bcmc33 wrote:I use Millers CCS 20w/50 semi-synthetic - as recommended by the Matty mechanics.


Looks like it has been superseded by the CSS 20w60 maybe?:

http://www.millersoils.net/1_Millers_r_MOTORSPORT-engine.htm

Cheapest price I found was 37 quid for 5ltr so quite a bit more than the Classic 20W50 I've been using. Would the semi synth help the reduce tendency for my oil pressure to drop after spending an hour on the motorway in hot weather?

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PostPost by: ardee_selby » Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:24 pm

Robbie693 wrote:
bcmc33 wrote:I use Millers CCS 20w/50 semi-synthetic - as recommended by the Matty mechanics.


Looks like it has been superseded by the CSS 20w60 maybe?:

http://www.millersoils.net/1_Millers_r_MOTORSPORT-engine.htm

Robbie


Unless Brian is referring to Classic Sport (CS?) 20w50?

http://www.millersoils.net/1_Millers_frame_CLASSIC.htm

Confusing nomenclature..."C" for "Classic", or "C" for "Competition", or "CC" for "Classic Competition"....or is it me? Probably. If so, apologies.
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PostPost by: bcmc33 » Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:30 pm

Correction guys - I should have said I use Millers CSS 20w/50 semi-synthetic.

My typo fingers are so much quicker than my brain. :oops:
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PostPost by: alexblack13 » Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:44 pm

My fingers are so much THICKER than my Brain.. Arthritis and all that..

My boy says I have fingers like a Coo's tits... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Funny but not if you see what I mean..
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PostPost by: ardee_selby » Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:34 pm

alexblack13 wrote: Arthritis and all that...Funny but not if you see what I mean..


No not funny. Elsewhere there's mention of looking over your shoulder in lieu of using rear view mirrors...not easy if it makes your eyes water! :(

Anyhoo...could you clarify. What oil have you actually ordered?

Competition 20/60 (Product name: CSS 20/60) **
OR
Classic Sport 20/50 (Product Name: Classic Sport 20w50)

(** Unless, as Robbie has pointed out, this has superceded a CSS 20/50. There is no CSS 20/50 currently listed on Millers' website)
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