Horn grounding issue on +2...

PostPost by: mibux » Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:33 am

Baffled by this one. Everything about the horn circuit checks and test functions up to the horn button itself.

Horn button and associated plunger all pass bench tests. However a ground from the steering column or steering shaft is missing.

If I attach a ground cable to the steering shaft above the universal, everything works fine. The steering rack itself has a working ground. But, the rubber bushings in the universal joint appear to electrically isolate the shaft.

It does not appear in the manual that any kind of jumper was intended to bridge this. Yet the horn did work in the past. Have no idea what has changed.

Any suggestions? Thanks!
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PostPost by: RobertMaulden » Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:03 pm

Is the earth wire from the horn slip ring broken?
Is the horn "pencil" actually making contact with the slip ring?
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PostPost by: Craven » Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:19 pm

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PostPost by: pharriso » Fri Sep 30, 2022 1:06 pm



You need part # 130581 in the parts diagram.
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PostPost by: bast0n » Fri Sep 30, 2022 4:51 pm

Phil is correct. D
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PostPost by: Steve Brooks » Sat Oct 01, 2022 3:22 pm

Hello chaps, I had the same problem a while ago and bridged the gap on the steering joint with copper wire as all the earth straps seemed to be to long.Regards Steve
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PostPost by: Hawksfield » Mon Oct 03, 2022 11:43 am

Hi
I recently had a lazy horn not operating every time found it was a high resistance on the splines of the steering column upper, had to slacken of and pull steering wheel in and out to clear corrosion and re tighten. now ok.

I could not believe that a tight coupling clamp could go high resistance.!
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PostPost by: nmauduit » Tue Oct 04, 2022 12:43 pm

Steve Brooks wrote:Hello chaps, I had the same problem a while ago and bridged the gap on the steering joint with copper wire as all the earth straps seemed to be to long.Regards Steve


Fwiw on my Federal S4se there is a short wire across the steering joint to maintain continuity so that grounding of the horn wire can be controlled by the horn button...
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PostPost by: RichardHawkins » Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:31 pm

My 1968 S4 also has a short earth braid across the coupling on the steering column.

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PostPost by: mwhitaker » Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:52 pm

My Federal 69 S4 also has the ground strap across the steering coupling. My horn issue turned out to be due to a fractured horn pencil-replaced it with one from a TR6/MGB-slightly longer and a slightly tighter fit than before but works very nicely with mild pressure required and no sounding off when turning the wheel!

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