Fiery Heater Knobs

PostPost by: innesw » Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:28 pm

Hi,

Would a willing forum member be able to help me out please?
I need a high-res END ON (axial) picture of the "flame" domed gel style sticker of the earlier heater knob please.
As most are aware it seems to be the rarest of the Ford EnFo dashboard knobs.

Email is probably easiest for a high res picture, thanks gents.
innesworsman at g mail dot com

I am aware SJ Sportscars makes a recreation knob but I personally think the logo looks a bit on the "could have tried harder" school report scale.

Were there potentially two types of heater knob? One with the base of the "flame" oval filled with red and the other not coloured in? See pictures below.

171111 002.jpg and

base oval filled red

Knobs.JPG and

base oval not filled red

cables.jpg and

base oval not filled red
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PostPost by: mark030358 » Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:30 pm

One with a flame also used on Europas

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PostPost by: innesw » Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:40 pm

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PostPost by: innesw » Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:24 pm

Bumping this back up to the top of the active topics. Anybody with a Camera and an Elan willing to help me out?

Thanks,
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PostPost by: ericbushby » Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:10 pm

Hi Innes,
I cannot help you, but I am interested in this. The heater knob is possibly the only remaining original item missing from my car. (Oh no it isn`t, I need a three arm oil filler cap as well.) I have been looking for and gathering missing parts for ten years now.
One sold on ebay today was the `filled in oval` type. The seller mentioned some deterioration with age which suggests it is original. It was removed before the end of the auction so we do not know the selling price.
Brian Buckland only shows the open oval type, which I think looks better.
Thankyou for showing the SJ replica. At least that is now a possibility for me.
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PostPost by: Mazzini » Mon Oct 04, 2021 8:31 pm

I believe that the heater knobs and cables were unique to the Elan. I think the flames were hand painted, which back in the day, was cheaper than getting them printed.
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PostPost by: elated » Mon Oct 04, 2021 8:46 pm

The ebay listing has re-surfaced blaming "technical" problems.
The SJS Sportscars version may warrant A for effort but only D to E for attainment. It would always irritate me.
A skilled computer graphicist should be easily able to produce a good label for trimming then insertion in a period knob.
Any offers from our more computer adept colleagues or their (grand) children?
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PostPost by: mbell » Mon Oct 04, 2021 9:11 pm

elated wrote:Any offers from our more computer adept colleagues or their (grand) children?


I think Innes is trying to do this, but needs a good source image to start from...
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PostPost by: innesw » Mon Oct 04, 2021 9:17 pm

To clarify I have a digital designer on hand to help with the image vector file and I have shopped around a few suppliers for the gel dome.

I have also found a good source of reproduction knobs for a reasonable fee.

I don't yet know the grade/size of piano wire as the knob needs to push as well as pull the heater valve.

However the starter for 10 is a photograph of the logo. *Fingers crossed*

Edit - I've found the one on eBay, I will watch it but expect it will be quite expensive given how rare it is, good luck to the seller.

I will grab one of those images as a low Res starter.

-Except they are all slightly off axis :roll:
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PostPost by: Keith Scarfe » Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:52 am

Are you just making a one off for yourself or are you planning on making a few and sell them? If the latter, you would make a fortune if you could make a near identical replica. I'd have one.
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PostPost by: Keith Scarfe » Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:40 pm

There is one newly listed on ebay and the seller has posted some very good pictures. Is this any help?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124933415917?hash=item1d169ca3ed:g:6TgAAOSwtcRhWxBE
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PostPost by: innesw » Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:42 pm

All slightly off axis as per my last post above yours.
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PostPost by: gherlt » Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:43 pm

Send email via PM and I send you original files
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IMG_20211005_165135.jpg and
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PostPost by: skelteanema » Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:16 am

innesw wrote: I have shopped around a few suppliers for the gel dome.


Would you mind sharing the supplier who have the gel dome. I have a couple of original knobs/cables for a heater but am missing the gel dome and the fiery logo.
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PostPost by: nmauduit » Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:01 am

innesw wrote:[b]Edit - I've found the one on eBay, I will watch it but expect it will be quite expensive given how rare it is, good luck to the seller.


yes, I'm afraid there are quite a few people looking for a decent one ... me included
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