Alternator Bracket
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The alternator bracket which came with the spare engine I recently bought is well past its sell-by date.
The mounting holes are extremely oval.
Can this bracket (photo pinched from SJ Sportscars) be a direct replacement?
The mounting holes are extremely oval.
Can this bracket (photo pinched from SJ Sportscars) be a direct replacement?
Steve
'64 S1 Elan (Owned since '73)
'69 Alfa Romeo 1750 Spider Veloce (Owned since '77)
'70 Morris Minor 1000 (Owned since '85)
'64 S1 Elan (Owned since '73)
'69 Alfa Romeo 1750 Spider Veloce (Owned since '77)
'70 Morris Minor 1000 (Owned since '85)
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AlfaLofa - Third Gear
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I didn't know I had such a rarity !!
And I don't know how this lump of metal relates to Lotus's philosophy of "adding lightness"
I'll have a word with the local engineering guru and see if he can sleeve it for me.
The local guru by the way, is an octogenarian who has owned his XK120 (complete with bullet holes gained in Malaya in the '50s) since it was new.
He had a pretty illustrious racing career - but he's probably best known for the Minnow Fish carb (the British version of the Minnow Carb) and for his turbo development work for Saab.
(Found this http://www.saabscene.com/forum/archive/ ... 1261cc37ae)
There will be an article about him (and his XK) in December's "Classic Cars Magazine" which will be available in about 2 weeks - so Lochgilphead will be mentioned in despatches
And I don't know how this lump of metal relates to Lotus's philosophy of "adding lightness"
I'll have a word with the local engineering guru and see if he can sleeve it for me.
The local guru by the way, is an octogenarian who has owned his XK120 (complete with bullet holes gained in Malaya in the '50s) since it was new.
He had a pretty illustrious racing career - but he's probably best known for the Minnow Fish carb (the British version of the Minnow Carb) and for his turbo development work for Saab.
(Found this http://www.saabscene.com/forum/archive/ ... 1261cc37ae)
There will be an article about him (and his XK) in December's "Classic Cars Magazine" which will be available in about 2 weeks - so Lochgilphead will be mentioned in despatches
Steve
'64 S1 Elan (Owned since '73)
'69 Alfa Romeo 1750 Spider Veloce (Owned since '77)
'70 Morris Minor 1000 (Owned since '85)
'64 S1 Elan (Owned since '73)
'69 Alfa Romeo 1750 Spider Veloce (Owned since '77)
'70 Morris Minor 1000 (Owned since '85)
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AlfaLofa - Third Gear
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I like others have been looking for another one of these original alternator brackets for years.
With modern profile scanning and CNC milling technology it must be relatively easy to get them made from scratch in a small batch.
Anyone with access to the machinery want to have a go I sure you could sell them !
cheers
Rohan
With modern profile scanning and CNC milling technology it must be relatively easy to get them made from scratch in a small batch.
Anyone with access to the machinery want to have a go I sure you could sell them !
cheers
Rohan
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I shall shortly be getting the worn alternator bracket either welded & drilled or sleeved.
But is there supposed to be a recess around each of the alternator bolt holes?
I have now obtained an example of the alternative type of bracket which has what appears to be original blue paint.
This second bracket has recesses with residual paint which could be original (or of course a repaint).
The original massive bracket also has a recess (albeit elongated) around each mounting hole.
Are these "recesses" deliberate or wear
But is there supposed to be a recess around each of the alternator bolt holes?
I have now obtained an example of the alternative type of bracket which has what appears to be original blue paint.
This second bracket has recesses with residual paint which could be original (or of course a repaint).
The original massive bracket also has a recess (albeit elongated) around each mounting hole.
Are these "recesses" deliberate or wear
Steve
'64 S1 Elan (Owned since '73)
'69 Alfa Romeo 1750 Spider Veloce (Owned since '77)
'70 Morris Minor 1000 (Owned since '85)
'64 S1 Elan (Owned since '73)
'69 Alfa Romeo 1750 Spider Veloce (Owned since '77)
'70 Morris Minor 1000 (Owned since '85)
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AlfaLofa - Third Gear
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AlfaLofa wrote:I shall shortly be getting the worn alternator bracket either welded & drilled or sleeved.
But is there supposed to be a recess around each of the alternator bolt holes?
I have now obtained an example of the alternative type of bracket which has what appears to be original blue paint.
This second bracket has recesses with residual paint which could be original (or of course a repaint).
The original massive bracket also has a recess (albeit elongated) around each mounting hole.
Are these "recesses" deliberate or wear
I think those recesses are supposed to be there, for washers.
The rear hole is not for a normal BOLT clamping tight to the alternator, instead it should be a a sleeve over a bolt with the sleeve used as a pivot for the alternator to swing (to adjust tension in the fanbetl) but to allow the alternator rear fixing hole to slide to & fro on the sleeve as the alternator expands and contracts with heat.
As far as I am aware, the actual arrangement there should be a longish narrow bolt with a washer at its head, then the sleeve, then a washer then through the bracket hole then a washer then a nyloc nut.
If the alternator fixing cannot expand I suspect that in extreme circumstances it might crack the back plate of the alternator.
Bill Williams
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Thanks Bill - very interesting.
Has any one got a scan from the Parts List which shows the alternator fittings?
My Service Parts List only covers the generator/dynamo.
Has any one got a scan from the Parts List which shows the alternator fittings?
My Service Parts List only covers the generator/dynamo.
Steve
'64 S1 Elan (Owned since '73)
'69 Alfa Romeo 1750 Spider Veloce (Owned since '77)
'70 Morris Minor 1000 (Owned since '85)
'64 S1 Elan (Owned since '73)
'69 Alfa Romeo 1750 Spider Veloce (Owned since '77)
'70 Morris Minor 1000 (Owned since '85)
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AlfaLofa - Third Gear
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jono wrote:..interesting stuff.
My alternator bracket looks nothing like any of these - anyone know the provenance (see piccy)?
Jon
Yes, Tecalemit Jackson Magnesium bracket that held their fuel pump, with the alternator as a by-product. If the one you have, has the pump mount sawn off it might be the one I used to own!
Ian
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Looks like this was discussed a couple of years ago as well - http://www.lotuselan.net/forums/lotus-electrical-f38/lhd-alternator-bracket-t24554.html
This bracket looks interesting - http://www.initracing.co.uk/product.php?selproid=72, not sure where the top hole bolts to though...
This bracket looks interesting - http://www.initracing.co.uk/product.php?selproid=72, not sure where the top hole bolts to though...
Phil Harrison
1972 Elan Sprint 0260K
1972 Elan Sprint 0260K
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pharriso - Coveted Fifth Gear
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Phil,
I spotted this photo posted by S J Lambert which shows where the top bolt goes.
Here's a repro bracket on Ebay which looks up to the job:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181022126130
And here's the bolt:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181014820708
I spotted this photo posted by S J Lambert which shows where the top bolt goes.
Here's a repro bracket on Ebay which looks up to the job:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181022126130
And here's the bolt:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181014820708
Steve
'64 S1 Elan (Owned since '73)
'69 Alfa Romeo 1750 Spider Veloce (Owned since '77)
'70 Morris Minor 1000 (Owned since '85)
'64 S1 Elan (Owned since '73)
'69 Alfa Romeo 1750 Spider Veloce (Owned since '77)
'70 Morris Minor 1000 (Owned since '85)
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