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PostPost by: wolfchen » Mon May 13, 2024 6:29 pm

I was told that the gearbox on a S2 can only be removed along with the engine and that the gearbox will not come out with the engine in place . True or not ?
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PostPost by: MACCA.GLM » Mon May 13, 2024 7:02 pm

Apparently the gearbox and engine can come out in one piece if you have a hoist that's very high. and you have facility to tilt the unit as it comes out.
The easier way is to remove the engine first and then the gearbox.

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PostPost by: wolfchen » Mon May 13, 2024 7:51 pm

i was inquiring if I can pull the gearbox without removing the engine , I want to renew the syncro's
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PostPost by: ericbushby » Mon May 13, 2024 7:57 pm

No you cannot. Engine has to be removed to allow gearbox to come out.
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PostPost by: MACCA.GLM » Tue May 14, 2024 10:30 am

Hi

Eric is right you cannot get the gearbox out with the engine in situ.Engine has to come out either with the gearbox as a whole or separate

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PostPost by: elancoupe » Tue May 14, 2024 12:07 pm

Sorry to be the dissident here, but the box can be removed without the engine - I have done so more than once. It’s not easy, but it’s doable. Whether it’s the best way is subject to opinion :)

There have been numerous threads on this in the past.
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PostPost by: ericbushby » Tue May 14, 2024 12:33 pm

Mike,
That is the first I have heard of it. I thought I followed this forum closely, Thank you for the enlightenment. I have removed the engine and gearbox three times now although not for gearbox problems.
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PostPost by: bitsobrits » Tue May 14, 2024 12:37 pm

I have read a description of gearbox removal without removing the engine, but given the apparent difficulty (separate bell housing to engine, remove clutch and flywheel, separate bell housing from gearbox, remove gearbox) I question how much time is saved. To me, having pulled engines a few engines out of Elans over the years, it's much easier/faster to pull engine/gearbox out together. Though these days, with a two post lift, I just remove the body when I need to get the engine out. :)
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PostPost by: types26/36 » Tue May 14, 2024 12:54 pm

Here is a thread refered to by Mike (removing the g/box with engine in place)
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=16024&start=
I have never tried it and doubt I ever would :lol:
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PostPost by: ericbushby » Tue May 14, 2024 1:12 pm

Thanks Brian,
I was just looking for that.
I have read and I think, understood Mike`s description.
My thoughts are that is too difficult and there are too many points that have to be done correctly without easy access. I already have to do things twice as it is, without adding difficulties to the process. Also, I do not have a lift so I would be working on the floor.
But, never say it can`t be done.
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PostPost by: elancoupe » Tue May 14, 2024 1:41 pm

bitsobrits wrote:I have read a description of gearbox removal without removing the engine, but given the apparent difficulty (separate bell housing to engine, remove clutch and flywheel, separate bell housing from gearbox, remove gearbox) I question how much time is saved. To me, having pulled engines a few engines out of Elans over the years, it's much easier/faster to pull engine/gearbox out together. Though these days, with a two post lift, I just remove the body when I need to get the engine out. :)



Just to be clear, clutch and flywheel removal is not needed.

I have found, that in my car’s current configuration, the TTR manifold makes this procedure much more difficult - I probably would not do it this way. This is because the manifold makes removing the bell bolts almost impossible without removing the manifold. Anyone who has taken these on and off will tell you that it is no picnic.

With more a more traditional manifold , I didn’t find it to be all that difficult, car on jack stands, just me and a couple floor jacks did it in a few hours.

Like so many things, to each his own.
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PostPost by: MACCA.GLM » Tue May 14, 2024 9:15 pm

Elan coupe.Read the link. interesting and bravo to you.

But I will stick to taking engine out to take out the box. Much easier for me .

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PostPost by: alan.barker » Sat May 18, 2024 3:47 pm

+1 engine out followrd by gearbox out.
For me to lift a gearbox back into place from below is far too heavy . A real gut buster or instant hernia lol
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