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Elan +2 anti sizzle gear lever bush

PostPost by: Melodyk » Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:42 am

Can anyone explain whether the anti-sizzle gear lever bush is the same for a 1967 Elan +2 as for an Elan? I keep reading about anti-sizzle bushes for Elan but cannot work out if that would be the same for my +2. Do the cars have the same gear lever? The sizzle is driving me insane. As soon as you get up to say 30mph the gear stick starts vibrating and buzzing. If you put your hand on it gently it stops. At some speeds it's not so obvious but it never goes away. It really spoils the drive and we don't want to take the entire gearbox apart if a simple bush will fix it. Thanks
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PostPost by: 512BB » Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:05 pm

As your 67 +2 will have a 4 speed box, it will have the same gear lever and same bush as an Elan.

'The sizzle is driving me insane'

Don't you like the melody :D Sorry could help myself.

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PostPost by: Melodyk » Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:08 pm

What with all the other lovely noises the car makes this is just one "melody" too much! I know it has 4 speed box but I was worried gear stick etc might be different. It will be great if it is identical and I can get a bush for it.
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PostPost by: gus » Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:12 pm

wonder if the nylon ball is too tight

is it hard to get in reverse?

if the early +2 indeed has an Elan shifter, find a later one they are different

Is the shift knob rattling?
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PostPost by: Melodyk » Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:59 pm

Thanks for replies. It goes into all the gears fine. If I loosen the gear knob it rattles so it's not the knob itself. Once you tighten up the gear knob you still have the gear stick sizzle.
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PostPost by: billwill » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:48 pm

Melodyk wrote:What with all the other lovely noises the car makes this is just one "melody" too much! I know it has 4 speed box but I was worried gear stick etc might be different. It will be great if it is identical and I can get a bush for it.


It's not just a case of getting a bush.

You may have a non-standard gear shift lever.

The standard one is in two main parts, a short stubby lever that goes into the gearbox and a longer one that has the knob/handle on top for your hand. The two parts are flexibly joined together by the rubber bush. They do appear to differ between the Elan and the Elan+2


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See parts 62 to 72 on this diagram

http://www.lotuselan.net/wiki/FA_-_Gear ... asing_%2B2
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PostPost by: billwill » Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:11 pm

If you already have the correct gear stick for the +2, shown above, but are encountering sizzle, it is possible that the bush (number 66) has gone hard or the washers (number 67) are bridging the gap between the inner and outer sleeves of the bush, thereby effectively making it 'hard' If so use washers with a smaller outside diameter.


PS: Gus above was referring to the nylon hemisherical cover (number 58) not the gear knob for your hand (number 72).
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PostPost by: john.p.clegg » Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:19 pm

They are different,what someone recently did was fit a weight on the lever to alter its harmonics...just try taping a nut/bolt whatever you have handy to the lever and see what happens...

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PostPost by: KevJ+2 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:24 pm

john.p.clegg wrote:just try taping a nut/bolt whatever you have handy to the lever and see what happens...


Yep....that sounds like a Lotus solution to me :D
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PostPost by: vincereynard » Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:46 pm

Somebody on here (rcourtney??) fitted on internal gaiter ( off an MGB?) to prevent noxious niffs from entering the cabin. This might provide a damper for the lever.
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PostPost by: Melodyk » Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:20 pm

We definitely have the +2 gear lever as in the diagram above. But we need to do a bit of dismantling to see if the bush is hardened or if it might be the washers. If it is the bush, is that available from any of the usual UK Lotus parts people?
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PostPost by: pharriso » Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:19 pm

Melodyk wrote:We definitely have the +2 gear lever as in the diagram above. But we need to do a bit of dismantling to see if the bush is hardened or if it might be the washers. If it is the bush, is that available from any of the usual UK Lotus parts people?


Yes, Sue Miller and / or Paul Matty stock it
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