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Borg & Beck Clutch cover

PostPost by: gino1 » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:48 pm

Hi All,
Wondering if any of you can shine some light on my clutch cover problem as I have two Borg & Beck clutch covers in my garage and the only ID on them is 8 - 81/2"..i'm pretty sure they're off a twin cam but not entirely sure. :x
If they are suitable, which thrust bearing should I use ? I normally use the heavy duty AP clutch cover with a thrust pad fitted.
As these do not have a thrust pad, will I need another thrust bearing and carrier ?

Thanks for any help.
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PostPost by: rgh0 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:58 am

Hi Gino

The 4 speed Elans and Plus 2 all had the pressure plate / cover with the thrust pad and an 8 inch clutch disk. The 5 speed plus 2S 130/5 had the pressure plate / cover without the thrust pad and an 8 1/2 inch clutch disk. You need a different thrust bearing with a round nose rather than flat face. I think the thrust bearing carrier was the same but I have never actually measured them up to do a comparison check.

I don't know what the Cortinas or twin cam Escorts used for their clutch so it may also be off one of those..

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PostPost by: Lyn7 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:14 am

Hi Gino & Rohan, you definitely need a different thrust bearing carrier for the four speed and five speed thrust bearing.
Cheers Lyn... :)
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PostPost by: rgh0 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:37 am

Thanks Lyn - now I know for sure. :D
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PostPost by: gino1 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:09 am

Hi Rohan and Lyn, thanks for your feedback....i'll do some further invstigation to see if i csn successfully use them or i'll sell them. Gino
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PostPost by: [email protected] » Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:27 pm

Gino, you'll need an adapter for installing the round face release bearing to the standard carrier when using a pressure plate without the "platten".
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PostPost by: gino1 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:52 pm

Hi Jeff,
Thanks. Do you have a pic of the adaptor I can use ?
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PostPost by: ncm » Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:32 pm

Hi Gino, when Ford created the mk1 Escort Mexico they replaced the Twin Cam engine with a 1600 x/flow engine that used a clutch cover without the thrust pad and replaced the thrust bearing carrier with the one shown on the left below which carried a round nosed bearing.

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PostPost by: gino1 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:35 pm

Thanks Brian,
All i would need to do is create a spacer to raise the height of the bearing carrier and pop in a new round nosed bearing.
Next clutch that fails i'll try this one out.
Thanks for your help.
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