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Grille differences

PostPost by: gjz30075 » Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:41 pm

Hi all,
Anyone know where I can find that thread concerning the differences between an S1, S2 grill and an S3,S4 grille? I think it had to do with the size and shape of the little squares that make up the grille. I think the later grilles had a more rectangluar makeup of the 'squares' vs a more 'square' square in the earlier grilles.
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PostPost by: types26/36 » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:00 am

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PostPost by: gjz30075 » Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:40 pm

Yep. Thanks Brian!

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PostPost by: oldelanman » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:13 pm

My S4 grille is different from all of the examples in Gary's earlier post......it has 3/8" square mesh ! It's been on the car since I got it in 1974 and I assume it's the original but maybe not. Anyone else got one like this ?
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PostPost by: andyelan » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:42 pm

Hi Roger

Can't say about Elans but my '74 Europa Special has a grill with 3/8" square mesh and I know that's original

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PostPost by: oldelanman » Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:11 pm

Hi Andy,
That's interesting. Is the Europa grille the same size and shape as the Elan ? If so maybe someone in the factory picked from the wrong parts bin when my car was put together.

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PostPost by: andyelan » Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:43 pm

Hi again Roger

I can't say if the Europa and Elan grill are the same, however, the Europa grill has a "046" part number which would suggest it's unique to that car.

I don't suspose it's impossible for a Europa grill to be fitted to an Elan but I would suggest it's more likely to be simply an age related issue. Lotus, or the people supplying grills, would simply buy whatever mesh was readily available at the time and I don't think they would be bothered if it had square or rectangular holes

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PostPost by: bcmc33 » Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:35 pm

For sheer interest I measured the grille mesh on my car at 3/8" square. It's an original grille on a car built within the last 3 months of Sprint production.

I have a nice new spare grille bought at Donnington some years ago - and this has 1/4" square mesh.

When painted mat black the mesh is not seen - but when painted gloss black it is more noticeable.
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PostPost by: ddddumas » Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:19 am

The grille on my 1966 S2 has 3/8" square openings, like Roger's.
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PostPost by: Galwaylotus » Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:42 am

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PostPost by: oldelanman » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:21 am

Interesting.......
As Brian is sure that the 3/8" square mesh on his Sprint is original and I'm pretty sure that it's original on my S4 it looks like Andy's age related theory may be correct. Perhaps Paul's '66 S2 has had a later replacement fitted ? I guess if you need a replacement it will probably come down to whatever you can get hold of nowadays unless of course you make it yourself. Anyway it's another fine example of Lotus variety and probably a headache for the purist restorers and the concours judges !
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