Sliding Spline UJ driveshafts
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The sliding spline U/J driveshafts are bomb proof ( Performance Unlimited ? ),I suppose Elan and Plus2 ones are of different length ? That's if one can fit them to the elan with tight droop angles ?
Hub Plate ? do you mean the plate fitted to each U/J which attaches to the spiders?
Should be standard...
John
Hub Plate ? do you mean the plate fitted to each U/J which attaches to the spiders?
Should be standard...
John
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john.p.clegg - Coveted Fifth Gear
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For what its worth, I wouldn't use sliding splines on a road car.
The rear suspension on the Elan has a large amount of travel, and as a result the driveshaft plunges a decent amount. Rotoflex accommodates this plunge as well as the angular displacement, UJs can't cope with plunge, hence the sliding spline.
The downside of a spline is that it locks under load, and as a result will lock the rear suspension under acceleration, releasing at the gearchange points. So if you are accelerating out of a bend, potentially the rear suspension will jump at the gear change point as the suspension rebalances when the spline unlocks as the torque is removed. The other issue is that if you hit a bump under acceleration with the spline locked, potentially damaging lateral loads are applied to the wheel bearing and diff output shaft bearing. In period, formula cars used ball splines, which used ball bearings in the spline slideways and didn't lock under load.
I have TTR UJ/splines on my race Elan, but the rear suspension is lowered and rock hard and wheel articulation is very limited. My road Elan has Miller CVs which I believe to be a far better solution (and I would prefer to use on my race Elan if the regs would allow).
The rear suspension on the Elan has a large amount of travel, and as a result the driveshaft plunges a decent amount. Rotoflex accommodates this plunge as well as the angular displacement, UJs can't cope with plunge, hence the sliding spline.
The downside of a spline is that it locks under load, and as a result will lock the rear suspension under acceleration, releasing at the gearchange points. So if you are accelerating out of a bend, potentially the rear suspension will jump at the gear change point as the suspension rebalances when the spline unlocks as the torque is removed. The other issue is that if you hit a bump under acceleration with the spline locked, potentially damaging lateral loads are applied to the wheel bearing and diff output shaft bearing. In period, formula cars used ball splines, which used ball bearings in the spline slideways and didn't lock under load.
I have TTR UJ/splines on my race Elan, but the rear suspension is lowered and rock hard and wheel articulation is very limited. My road Elan has Miller CVs which I believe to be a far better solution (and I would prefer to use on my race Elan if the regs would allow).
68 Elan S3 HSCC Roadsports spec
71 Elan Sprint (still being restored)
32 Standard 12
Various modern stuff
71 Elan Sprint (still being restored)
32 Standard 12
Various modern stuff
- Andy8421
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My S4 car came with sliding spline U/J drive shafts but also the lower forward tube of the rear wishbones are attached to the chassis with stainless steel cables to limit the amount of suspension travel. Without these the consequences would be serious!! Rubber doughnuts do have some advantages but they are also very expensive now.
- William2
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I've had sliding splines on my car for 8 years with no issues. The car is not lowered but I do have AVO shocks.
I don't race the car but I have done some track days and spirited canyon drives and I have never had a handling issue or suspension travel issue. I purchased them from Paul Matty. My two cents.
Ken
I don't race the car but I have done some track days and spirited canyon drives and I have never had a handling issue or suspension travel issue. I purchased them from Paul Matty. My two cents.
Ken
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