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PostPost by: jono » Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:24 pm

...are such things still available, or something close to the originals?

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PostPost by: pharriso » Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:38 pm

OK, I'll ask.... what the heck are "Norfolk nails"??
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PostPost by: jono » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:27 pm

Oh, the things which look like black plastic rawlplugs into which is inserted a cross between a screw and an annular ring shank nail which are used to secure various fitments into plastic Lotus bodyshells of a certain age and which have become known as 'Norfolk nails' after the location of the factory in which they were used in considerable numbers :)
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PostPost by: SimonH » Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:25 pm

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Do you mean scrivets?
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PostPost by: h20hamelan » Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:46 pm

The new Yamaha ones are best built, Subaru and Volvo also have nice ones.
The generic cheapies are rubbish, may as well use disposable.
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PostPost by: 661 » Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:23 pm

https://www.seriouslylotus.com/wheel-ar ... ip-scrivet


They should be considered consumables.
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PostPost by: pharriso » Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:28 pm

None on my car as far as I recall. Weren't these introduced in the 80s or 90's? Certainly after the Elan was out of production...
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PostPost by: Craven » Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:06 pm

Used to fix the seat back board to the frame.
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PostPost by: vxah » Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:32 pm

Certainly used on S4 seat backs, Sue Miller still has them!
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PostPost by: pharriso » Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:35 pm

Ah yes......
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PostPost by: h20hamelan » Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:57 pm

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PostPost by: jono » Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:50 am

h20hamelan wrote:
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Those are the guys!

I would ideally like something which looks like the original nails rather then the modern scrivets.

....I'll have a chat with Sue and see if she knows of anything
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PostPost by: nmauduit » Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:10 pm

jono wrote:I would ideally like something which looks like the original nails rather then the modern scrivets.


I had a couple missing and iirc I used some that have a push only top which is almost undistinguishable once in place, like the ones to attach the windshield to BMW series 6 fairing

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BMW R90S windshield rivet


possibly similar to

https://catalog.efc-intl.com/viewitems/plastic-/r-lok-standard-plastic-expansion-rivets

If the fit is right they hold quite tight, soapy water may help to get them in - protruding remnant may be cut flush with a razor blade if need be. One might be able to take them out by pushing the central locking rod all the way through, with a filed flat nail of just about the same diameter, but this does not always work.

I don't recall if I got them from Sue...
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