Plus 2 window mechansim spring
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To remove the motor and levers, I unbolted the motor from the lever arm and most know what came next! The spring popped off the lever and only caused a small cut on my hand.
My question is how much does the spring have to be "pre-loaded" before installing on the lever? I know the function of the spring is to adjust for the weight of the window so that it will go up and down at about the same speed (slow and a bit slower but that is another story well posted on this forum). I can easily pre-load the spring a half turn by manipulating the lever and using a vice-grip. Is that enough? How would you turn it more before fitting?
Ken
My question is how much does the spring have to be "pre-loaded" before installing on the lever? I know the function of the spring is to adjust for the weight of the window so that it will go up and down at about the same speed (slow and a bit slower but that is another story well posted on this forum). I can easily pre-load the spring a half turn by manipulating the lever and using a vice-grip. Is that enough? How would you turn it more before fitting?
Ken
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DavidLB wrote:Workshop manual shows a pair of holes that when lined up on the operating levers to hold the spring in tension 1/4 bolt I think will do the job
That's how I did it, but can't recall details. Might have shoved a screw driver in the holes. Window taped in the up position. Have a magnet wand ready to fish the fasteners out of the door when dropped.
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Will check shop manual, DUH!
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Hi Ken
Been there did that as well!
with the plate off the motor I recall I held the blade in a vice then rotated the plate until the spring looked like the other motor's spring and then used a bolt to hold the plate to blade in tension while I reassembled onto the motor
Have attached a picture of the spring on my other motor as its out of the car at present
Hope this helps best of luck
Bob
Been there did that as well!
with the plate off the motor I recall I held the blade in a vice then rotated the plate until the spring looked like the other motor's spring and then used a bolt to hold the plate to blade in tension while I reassembled onto the motor
Have attached a picture of the spring on my other motor as its out of the car at present
Hope this helps best of luck
Bob
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Bob
If I get this right, you do not need to add an extra rotation to the spring which would be a real task. I put plate in the position that would give the least tension and then forced the spring on with a screw driver. All changes in plate position would be higher tension. I think I got it! Next weekend will tell.
Ken
If I get this right, you do not need to add an extra rotation to the spring which would be a real task. I put plate in the position that would give the least tension and then forced the spring on with a screw driver. All changes in plate position would be higher tension. I think I got it! Next weekend will tell.
Ken
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Hi ken
I am going from memory but I think it is about 1.5 turns. I put the blade in a vice held near the far end so the plate that holds the motor could rotate through a full 360 degrees ( Motor was off 4 this) The spring is put on so that it is unwinds on lift and tightens on lower. I put the spring on with the plate over the blade and then turned the plate a bit over 1 turn until I cold drop a bolt through from the motor side to lock it in position. then fitted the motor and then the holding bolts could be removed. I used garden gloves and turning the plate through a full turn and a bit was had but not unreasonable.
I have another thread on a related subject as I am reassembling my passengers door at present
Hope this helps best of luck
Bob
I am going from memory but I think it is about 1.5 turns. I put the blade in a vice held near the far end so the plate that holds the motor could rotate through a full 360 degrees ( Motor was off 4 this) The spring is put on so that it is unwinds on lift and tightens on lower. I put the spring on with the plate over the blade and then turned the plate a bit over 1 turn until I cold drop a bolt through from the motor side to lock it in position. then fitted the motor and then the holding bolts could be removed. I used garden gloves and turning the plate through a full turn and a bit was had but not unreasonable.
I have another thread on a related subject as I am reassembling my passengers door at present
Hope this helps best of luck
Bob
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bob_rich wrote:Hi ken
I am going from memory but I think it is about 1.5 turns [... I used garden gloves and turning the plate through a full turn and a bit was had but not unreasonable. [...]
Bob
Well. I beg to disagree. I managed to turn the spiral spring about a half-turn +45 degrees from idle until the arm lined up with the motor support bracket. Then I tried to add another 1/2 turn to see if I could add more pre-load but no. The spiral spring was so tightly coiled over itself that it blocked before the half turn was reached. (You can try in 1/2-turn increments because there are 2 positions at 180 degrees where you can locate the spring)
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