Lotus Elan

Door Lights

PostPost by: theelanman » Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:25 am

Jason
yep still here.......
I think jeff was trying to confirm most of these 'facts' and then post it in the 'info' section.......
hope it was of use!!!!
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PostPost by: thor » Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:49 am

I'd also be more than happy to pay for one!

Also, refererring to a comment further up;
Lotuselan.net IS the new Club Lotus for a generation now used to the internet, rather than an outdated club magazine in the post with ads for cars already sold, and a pitiful website. If they don't improve things rather than resting on their laurels of being the oldest Lotus club it's history.
If they don't improve I'd much rather spend my time on this website and hard earned cash on car magazines such as C&Sportscar and Octane.

Why not update LotusElan.net to an actual Elan Club, or am I then arguing against my own points?

Rant finished...

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PostPost by: Jason1 » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:14 pm

So Thor, changing the subject :lol: I have just emailed Club Lotus for an application form, is it not worth the joining fee???

I must say I was disapointed by the website and lack of online application facilities :cry:

What is the magazine like? I was joining just for that really.

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PostPost by: pmallinson » Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:48 am

Jason1 wrote:Yes, I have read your post and I disagree with the others. I think there is a real need for a new list. These parts are only going to get harded to get, the more sources we can find for parts the longer we can keep them on the road :lol:

The list in Paul's book would be a good start but I find that as a lot of the parts are shared on Elan and +2 it gets confusing as to which is for which. Also that there is not enough detail, for example; rear lights are from S2&3 E-type Jag, which Paul says, but I believe from looking at a friends classic Alfa that Alfa also used these lamps. A point to make on both vehicles is that although the lamp is the same the lense is different for the +2.

I for one would be happy to pay say ?10 for a good list (maybe more) that will save me a lot more in the future. To compile the list would take a lot of time so you would expect to be rewarded. The easiest way to sell it would be through Ebay.

If you are up for the task let me know how it goes and put me down for one. :lol:

Jason


Thanks for your support !! :D

I have been a Classic car nut for as long as I car to remember and probably longer than I should (according to the wife). I did this for the Reliant Scimitars and is was great help.
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I'm really NOT after financial reward just HELP in the form of any information especially when it comes to manufacturers of various parts and the OM part numbers.

I work overseas for a month at a time so on a night when I have finished I get our the laptop and do my ?own thing? which at the present includes this quest ! :shock:

I have set up spread sheets in Excel and broken the cars down into areas such as brakes, electrics, interior, body fittings etc and then the intent would be to enter the car it is fitted to, description of the part, the manufacturers part number, alternative part number(s) Lotus parts supplier numbers (Paul Matty, Christopher Neil etc etc) with hyperlinks to their sites, other cars it was fitted to, Suppliers for those car parts and their respective clubs (with Hyperlinks) !

I know it may sound very high tech but once done I think it would be of great use and I?ll probably burn it to CD and then distribute at minimal cost (If I can find a way to STOP people ripping it off and selling it on as that is not a TRUE classic car man as far as I?m concerned :evil: :evil: )

I have a copy of Paul?s book and there is some really good information in it which I intend to cross check against other info I have already gathered so hopefully the listing would be pretty reliable.

I am on the trail of lots of companies to try to glean information from them to assist in this and have positive response from SOME like AP Lockheed who sent me a disc with their back catalogues on (the ones your local motor factors use) and Bosal have done the same for exhausts etc. However other companies like Girling, Lucas, Unipart, AC Delco & Mintex etc etc has to date been unresponsive ! :( :evil:

Do ANY of you out there have contacts in these or other companies I could use ? or supply me with any contact details you may have (as they may be different to ones I have found on the web ?)

My email address is at the bottom of this posting as always, so any information in the form of lists, contacts, part numbers, manufacturers or other info you have can always be sent to there. If you only have a hard copy then should be willing to take a copy you could post it to the address on the web site (also shown at the bottom of this listing) please mark the envelope Lotus Alternate Parts or something similar so my wife and I can identify them easily.

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PostPost by: Jason1 » Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:49 pm

Peter

You may be better starting a new post with a title like +2 parts, so people will read and add to the list :) I think the door lights subject has run it's course.

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PostPost by: M100 » Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:37 pm

Peter, don't take this as personal criticism but the problem with information like this is they tend to become controlled by one person leading to problems if the primary source decides to go and do something else, or a server crashes or someone smells money to be made and sells it on ebay.

A lot of the information will by neccesity be a duplication of Robinshaw and Ross, although they don't have a right to the part number information it's an area that needs addressing carefully particularly if dummy infomation has been inserted into their texts (can of worms copyright issues spring to mind!)

If contributions are solicited and made by the wide arena of Elan owners such as on here then I'm sure most would prefer the collated information should be disseminated in the open and made freely available to all. Physical media is not always the right way as percieved value may get attributed to it, plus the ease of copying can both be an advantage and a huge disadvantage.

Make the information truly open and freely available and the piracy issue almost disappears, and assuming this site is properly backed up ??? so does any concerns about data loss. If the source respository can be modifed by anyone (in a positive way) then the result is usually much better, more comprehensive and more accurate.

Going back to the points mentioned in the first paragraph, a very similar thing happened with an alternative Elise list. Over a long period of time lots of people put a lot of work into an alternative parts list, the server went down and everything but a few fuzzy screen dumps someone just happened to save were the only remains of what was once a very useful site.

Also Excel, along with most other Microsoft applications use proprietary closed source formats. Something non proprietary like csv or even plain text is infinitely more portable.

I'd tend towards an area on the forum being reserved and arranged in a hierarchical manner to store this information or someone sets up a "wiki" both to cover the alternative parts issues and also the faq.

For those not immediately familiar with "wiki's" then take a look at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Introduction
http://www.bugzilla.org/

or for something specifically car oriented

http://www.350z-tech.com/zwiki/Main_Page
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PostPost by: pmallinson » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:25 pm

Jason1 wrote:Peter

You may be better starting a new post with a title like +2 parts, so people will read and add to the list :) I think the door lights subject has run it's course.

Jason


Thanks Jason you are totally right so I have started a new thread, its in the Lotus +2 forums but should have probably been in the common one, all you Baby Elan owners please get involved this is NOT limited to the +2

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