Bonded in windscreen

[vxah]

Thanks for that Dougal, i never thought about using ratchet straps! Was thinking of fitting a couple of those phone holder type suckers to the inside of the glass and keeping it pulled in with string tied somewhere?
I found out to my cost that the chrome wrinkles very easily!! new length turned up this morning!

I have found that the new glass is quite a poor fit at the bottom corners as they seem to stick out too much, the old glass sits in the hole much better. Maybe why the other chap said he was not overly happy with the corners?
I spoke to PM and they said that it often happens where the new glass is a poor fit, not just on the +2!!
Of course you can't tell if another glass is any better until you have it home and try to fit it? I think I can get it acceptable at the corners but I knew i would not be able to live with the wrinkles, Maybe i should cut up the old length and send it to people to practice thier curving techniques before they attack the real thing?

[vxah]

Bit of an update on my ill fitting glass!
I had a chat with Peter Taylor at the Pilkington classic glass stand while i was at the NEC for the CC show, He kindly invited me to bring the glass back to the factory in Queensborough, Isle of Sheppy and he would pop it into the checking frame to see how it was!
Well, I did just that on Monday afternoon, I took both the new screen and the old one, we put the new one in the frame and he had a measure up! Within tolerance was his answer however we could see that by the screens own waight it would tend to curve the sides in a little when in the frame. So we popped the old screen in and it fitted perfectly without having to "help" it curve! Peter's answer was that "a good screen fitter would be ok with it"
Nuff said, it's me not a good screen fitter!
Peter was also unaware that the screen was bonded in as he knew the Classic Capri was fitted with a rubber and, that the screen should have the black shaded edge to hide the bonding! I explained that it was fitted with a wide plastic/chrome moulding to hide the bonding that made "a good screen fitter" sweat a little! He also said that if i supported each side of the glass and placed it in a warm room with a couple of bags of sugar in the middle for a few days it would "add" to the curve!
Or, if I had time we could tape it to the frame and stick it in their "hot room" for half an hour or so and it would set the curve more... So thats what we did, It sat in the 105 degree C room while we had a tour of the plant from the jig/frame maker to the guy that winds the fine wire into the heated front screens! A fascinating insight into a company offshoot that we really do need for our classics!
I must say a huge thank you to Peter and the team at classic glass! By the way, I got the new screen home and it fitted in the hole just like the old one!! Thats better... Just got to fit it now with that trim!!

[Sea Ranch]

Really nice write-up, VXAH. Thanks.

So, I'll bite. Dougal says a fraction too much heat and the chrome strip can wrinkle. You say go very slowly. Can you offer any more tips to the rest of us? How did yours wrinkle, and how will you prevent that?

Thanks so much,

Randy

[vxah]

Well from what i can see so far it's not much over a good warm room temperature, maybe 30c tops? Use a heat gun at your peril.. Best thing i think is get it in the garage with a good heater on and get everything just warm.. The glass, car and trim, work on it like that so you cannot overheat the trim and it does not go cold and rock hard as you work it around the glass etc?

[Sea Ranch]

Think I will practice on my old/original stuff (which is still intact after removal, but too dull to be put back on a restored car).

What do you think of the Matty product, aside from the fragility of the foil during the bending process? There is the SJ Sportscars product, too. Trying to get someone to do a comparison/review of the two . . .

(My original has very small creases in the foil around the corners, from the factory job 45 years ago.)

[vxah]

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here's a photo of my +2S130. I don't know if you can zoom in on the trim. I don't have any better photo because i sold my +2S130 and it is now on French Island of Guardelope West Indies

The trim on Alan's car from SJS looks to be wider and flatter that the PM trim I have? If thats the case though I would have thought the original corner pieces might have fitted?

[alan.barker]

the trim on my car is narrower and you need the narrower corners pi?ces, also from sjsportscars.
The result on my 1973 +2S130/4 was better than new perfect. I compared it with the old original trim.
The windscreen in my car is the original Windscreen and dated 1973 ( the word TOUGHENED has a small dot above the third letter e.g. above the letter U)
Alan

[Sea Ranch]

Great. Thanks for that comment, Allan, and glad you liked the SJS product.

Randy