Elan+2 pedal box

PostPost by: Mrozik » Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:49 pm

Hi All
I have a problem with my pedal box. When I use the brake pedal it also moves the accelerator pedal making it a bit difficult to drive smoothly. I imagine its due to excessive wear? I'm wondering if I need a completely new pedal box or if there is a cheaper solution?
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PostPost by: mikealdren » Fri Oct 06, 2023 1:19 pm

People have reamed out the bearing surfaces and put in a larger diameter shaft. I think others have gone for Rolls Royce solutions with things like bronze bearing surfaces.
IIRC most of the work is taking it out, especially if you haven't cut a removable panel in the top of the box!
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PostPost by: jono » Fri Oct 06, 2023 1:38 pm

There should be a thin 'slip' washer between the pedal pivots on the shaft - perhaps there's some 'stiction' here?

..could be worth trying some spray lube from undernath and working the pedals to see if things improve.

Otherwise a pedal box 'refresh' may be needed
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PostPost by: alan.barker » Fri Oct 06, 2023 2:36 pm

Stiction you mean rusty.
Squirt penetrating oil and move them about.
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PostPost by: Mrozik » Fri Oct 06, 2023 2:54 pm

Many thanks to All for the replies with suggestions.
I'll try the simpler solution first as this will save me a lot of work.
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PostPost by: jono » Fri Oct 06, 2023 4:10 pm

alan.barker wrote:Stiction you mean rusty.
Squirt penetrating oil and move them about.
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'Stiction' could be rust or indeed anything else causing 'pick up' between adjoining parts such as congealed grease, grit or general dirt accumulation. As I also recommended lubrication is a good first start
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PostPost by: ericbushby » Fri Oct 06, 2023 5:00 pm

Hi Mrozic.
On the Elan there are lubrication holes on the top of the horizontal tube. I wonder if it the same on the Plus 2.
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PostPost by: mbell » Fri Oct 06, 2023 6:39 pm

Plus 2 is just a solid 1/2" shaft. Only drillings are for the split pins to hold it in the pedal box.
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PostPost by: EPA » Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:30 pm

When the pedals on my plus 2 started sticking I discovered that the shaft had moved. This resulted in the pedals pivoting on slightly different parts of the shaft and no longer moving freely.
I discovered that a screw had become loose on the engine side of the pedal box allowing the shaft to move out of position . The screw retains a spring clip that holds the shaft in position and when I pushed the shaft back into its original position and tightened the screw, the pedals were free again.
I don’t know if this is the standard arrangement or if it’s unique to my car.
I made several attempts at lubrication before I realised that the shaft had moved.
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PostPost by: LaikaTheDog » Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:56 pm

The shaft on my last elan had become so worn it looked like a crank. I needed to put in a new shaft and washers welded to the box as they have gone oval too

Speedo said 64k , pedal box said 164k ;)
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PostPost by: The Veg » Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:35 pm

EPA wrote:When the pedals on my plus 2 started sticking I discovered that the shaft had moved. This resulted in the pedals pivoting on slightly different parts of the shaft and no longer moving freely.
I discovered that a screw had become loose on the engine side of the pedal box allowing the shaft to move out of position . The screw retains a spring clip that holds the shaft in position and when I pushed the shaft back into its original position and tightened the screw, the pedals were free again.
I don’t know if this is the standard arrangement or if it’s unique to my car.
I made several attempts at lubrication before I realised that the shaft had moved.
Ed


I don't think that's standard fitment. Mine is as Mbell describes and while I don't have my parts manual handy, I don't recall seeing anything different on that page.
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PostPost by: jono » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:53 am

I made a new slightly undersize shaft in stainless then reamed and fitted bronze bushed to the pedals - smooth as silk.

And like Laika welded new thicker washers to the sides of the box
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