Plus 2 “Moustache” Grille Surround Install

PostPost by: stugilmour » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:00 am

I finally got my new grille surround from Paul Matty. It had been on back order for several months.

This version appears to be chromed brass rather than stock stainless. The two pieces are connected with an integral pin that fits in the bolting slot on the back.

No fasteners were supplied, and I never heard back from Matty’s on whether they had something available. SJ has some fasteners listed, but I was not sure if they would fit this trim version or not. The trim outside width is about 3/4”.

I went with trim clips available locally (in Canada at Lordco or Auto Value) in blister packs of two. Geno Part Number 17-2744.

These are equivalent to Auveco 2744 (Quantity 50) or Auveco 12959 (Quantity 15). The attached Auveco catalog page has the fastener dimensions. The 3/4” bolt length is shorter than the stock bolts at 1” length, but are doable. They use 10-24 nuts.

One nice feature of these fasteners is the bolt end centres properly within the track if put the correct way around. Drilling the holes in the centre of the fibreglass ridge properly located the trim edges.

I tried Nyloc nuts originally, but ended up with conventional nuts and lock washers as the Nyloc needed too much torque for the fastener spring clip. I used the stock quantity of four fasteners per side; two on the vertical and two on the horizontal. Carefully snug in place as too much torque on the thin fastener plate could distort the thin trim.

The clip fasteners slide into a track, and can be easily repositioned. I put masking tape on the trim face so I could mark the fastener position where I was sure I could access a wrench on the back side of the grille opening. You may feel the filled stock hole locations from the back side; I tried to avoid them to prevent cracking. I then transferred the drilling location to the body using the marks on the trims masking tape.

The whole thing actually went easier than I expected. Really like the new look. Now to get the darned pod motor fix completed so I can attach the grille.
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Trim on the car. There is a bit of a gap between the non-stock stainless bumper and the new trim. The top tips of the trims are finished on the back as they actually stand slightly proud of the fibreglass. Should catch the wash mitt nicely!
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Shows the two trims together with a few of the fasteners in place.
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Shows the face side of the trims and the integrated fastening pin at the centre.
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Auveco Catalog Section 23 Page 824 Universal Molding Fasteners
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PostPost by: woodie » Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:28 pm

Hi
Just fitted an original stainless steel one of these. I can't work out how to send you the link. But it's on page 3 of my posts.
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PostPost by: stugilmour » Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:55 pm

Yes Woodie, I saw that post and used your directions to guide my installation. Here is the link to Woodie’s beautiful Plus 2…

viewtopic.php?f=51&t=50066&start=30

I noticed your stock trims and bumper left less of a gap. Here is another picture showing the dimensions of the type I got from Paul Matty

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Showing the size of the assembled trims.


Here are some links with some more background on the grille surround

viewtopic.php?f=36&t=48584&hilit=Moustache

This one provides more details on some other fastening options

viewtopic.php?f=36&t=40003&p=278950&hilit=Moustache#p278950
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PostPost by: woodie » Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:34 pm

I forgot to mention in my topic, that I cut up some large stainless penny washers and turned them into long ovals, about the width of the trim, to spread the load. These fit nicely to the recess inside the nose.
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PostPost by: woodie » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:52 pm

Hi
Just got in from work and did a few measurements.
Tip to tip is 610mm ( 24")
Top to bottom 140mm (5 1/2")
It would be a bit longer and taller if laid dead flat but it curves quite a bit side to side and up and down.
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