1963 World Champion Sticker

PostPost by: Mazzini » Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:00 am

Just going through a file when I came across these three stickers. The top one is a modern reproduction, the middle sticker is original, made from paper and has gum top and bottom. The third sticker is what I think Lotus used on sales cars, it's plastic/vinyl.
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PostPost by: elans3 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:05 am

I think you probably bought the original gummed paper one from me some years ago ? I also had some repros made by a company we dealt with when I was working. Still have some in fact, both exterior, and those that stick to the glass from the inside.
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PostPost by: Mazzini » Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:30 pm

Yes, I probably did :-)

I debated fitting the bottom sticker onto my S2, but... I ended up fitting a reproduction.
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PostPost by: 1owner69Elan » Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:38 am

Rob,

These stickers purported to be 1963 are using a much later Lotus emblem. The serif font is wrong for 1963 and even later (eg 1969).

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PostPost by: Mazzini » Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:18 am

Naury,

Now you're just being difficult :lol: The top sticker was undoubtedly manufactured in the twenty-first century, but the other two are from the mid 60's.

États-Unis cinq points et cinq points supplémentaires parce que c'est vendredi :D
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PostPost by: 1owner69Elan » Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:37 am

I submit the following evidence to the independent judges:

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new- ... and-revamp

http://lotus-europa.com/causer/badges.html

Did a serif badge really exist in 1963?

Malheureusement, pas selon les informations ci-dessus. Pas avant environ 1985.
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PostPost by: Mazzini » Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:16 am

So what was used on the Mk 1 cam covers?

The links to Autocar and the Europa website are far from definitive, we are in the territory of the true anorak here, so I'm going to deduct 500 points because you're retired and I'm not :D
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PostPost by: Elanman68 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:51 am

1owner69Elan wrote:Did a serif badge really exist in 1963?


The badges on the cars were sans serif but the avec serif Lotus logo was in use on other things such as transporters and literature etc. .
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PostPost by: Mazzini » Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:31 am

Elanman68 wrote:
1owner69Elan wrote:Did a serif badge really exist in 1963?


The badges on the cars were sans serif but the avec serif Lotus logo was in use on other things such as transporters and literature etc. .


Absolutely. I just spent a very pleasant half an hour with a cup of coffee and my collection of Lotus brochures, price lists etc. It seems that type of script was used by Lotus on their literature between '63 and '67.

The pile of work on my desk has not gone away...
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PostPost by: trw99 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:15 pm

Yep, and here's proof from a Sep 1963 advert.

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PostPost by: Mazzini » Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:07 pm

Monsieur Grand Sprint dix points.
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PostPost by: trw99 » Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:55 am

Merci!
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PostPost by: Elan Peter » Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:59 pm

Hello, would you be interested in selling the new sticker? My dad and I are currently looking for one to go in our Factory 26R replica. No problem if you don't want to.
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PostPost by: Mazzini » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:17 pm

The second sticker (paper and gum) still turns up on eBay from time to time, but the third sticker is much harder to find.
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PostPost by: Elan Peter » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:22 pm

Ok, thank you. I'll have a look.
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