Original Mirrors, '72 Federal Sprint

PostPost by: Evante » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:03 pm

Hi All,

Does anyone know the following:

1. what type of side view mirror's were standard on a '72 Federal Sprint?

2. if there was one on the driver's side or one on both sides of the car?

3. where they were placed?

Thanks in advance for your consideration.

Jay S.
Jay S.
1972 Federal Sprint, Colorado Orange/White
2005 Elise, sold
1988 Evante 140TC, sold
Evante
Second Gear
Second Gear
 
Posts: 168
Joined: 01 Jun 2004

PostPost by: trw99 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:57 pm

Jay, the factory never fitted wing mirrors as standard. Instead dealers and importers provided them if required by the new owner.

It's conceivable that in the US certain States had a requirement for a wing mirror to be fitted in the early 1970s; I don't know. However, the attached 1972 factory press photo of a Federal Sprint indicates no nearside mirror. It would appear that this car has been fitted on the drivers door with a Vitoloni Sebring type mirror, though it is tricky to be definitive due to the angle.

Looking at the road tests carried out by US magazines, the Sprint and Plus 2S 130 all do have the same type of mirror as above mounted on the drivers door.

Tim
Attachments
federal-fhc-1.jpg and
User avatar
trw99
Coveted Fifth Gear
Coveted Fifth Gear
 
Posts: 2611
Joined: 31 Dec 2003

PostPost by: steve lyle » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:53 pm

A driver's side mirror was a Federal requirement, not a state one, just like the Feds had emission requirements, seat belt requirements, etc.. So if the factory didn't fit it, then the importing entity (Lotus NA?) had to before selling it.

I have no idea if my mirror is original, but here's what's on my '72 Sprint. I have seen this mirror on other US Sprints, and I don't recall ever seeing any other type.

RD Enterprises sells what looks like a similar mirror, and they claim it was used on Elans, +2's, and Europas, select "Mirrors" on the left column: https://www.rdent.com

img_0038.jpg and
Attachments
img_0037.jpg and
Steve Lyle
1972 Elan Sprint 0248k @ https://www.mgexp.com/registry/1972-Lot ... 48K.30245/
1972 MGB Roadster @ https://www.mgexp.com/registry/1972-MG- ... 842G.4498/
2007 BMW 335i Coupe
User avatar
steve lyle
Fourth Gear
Fourth Gear
 
Posts: 510
Joined: 15 Jun 2015

PostPost by: tedtaylor » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:23 pm

only equipped on driver's side door. I have an original Sprint. the mirror is "plastic-chrome" housing with a triangular (but rounded off) plinth. hope picture helps somewhat.
sideview-mirror-sprint.jpg and
TED
"Driving a Lotus is a triumph of bravery over intelligence." Stirling Moss
"TaylorMadeClassicCars" on WWW and Facebook
tedtaylor
Fourth Gear
Fourth Gear
 
Posts: 552
Joined: 09 Dec 2012

PostPost by: Evante » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:48 pm

Thank you all.

My car came with Sebring mirrors that I know were aftermarket. The passenger side one is placed in a position that is all but unusable. I was considering changing the type of mirror instead of repositioning the ones I have.

If the Sebring came with the car originally, then I am more inclined to stay with that mirror and just reposition it.

Thanks again,

JAy S.
Jay S.
1972 Federal Sprint, Colorado Orange/White
2005 Elise, sold
1988 Evante 140TC, sold
Evante
Second Gear
Second Gear
 
Posts: 168
Joined: 01 Jun 2004

PostPost by: 1owner69Elan » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:32 pm

As delivered to me at the factory July 9, 1969:
One Sebring Mach 1 mirror on the driver?s side only. Federal S4 SE DHC.

7eb5d751-d075-44b0-8f94-c0905c55b079.jpeg and
08d61e90-4aa7-4e81-bb5f-7f9e2bcee7bf.jpeg and


As per Ted Taylor?s Sprint above.
'69 Elan S4 SE
Street 181 BHP
Original owner
1owner69Elan
Fourth Gear
Fourth Gear
 
Posts: 846
Joined: 16 Jun 2015

PostPost by: pharriso » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:33 pm

Jay, it is my belief that the US distributors (Lotus East etc.) fitted side mirrors on Sprints to meet federal regulations. Driver's side door only. The mirrors were Vitalonis.
log36_princetonnj-08-06-2016-044.smjpg.jpg and
Kenny Mance's very original 0251K


This thread has more info - http://www.lotuselan.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=42088 , but this is specific to the Federal S4 SE.
Phil Harrison
1972 Elan Sprint 0260K
User avatar
pharriso
Coveted Fifth Gear
Coveted Fifth Gear
 
Posts: 3187
Joined: 15 Sep 2010

PostPost by: saildrive2001 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:58 pm

I have never fitted any outside mirrors to my car but with the increase in traffic I am finding that it might be a good idea. I have been thinking if anyone has looked at using a camera system instead of mirrors? I would be interested in hearing any ideas as to how to achieve this.
Keith Marshall
69 S4 SE DHC RHD Original owner
saildrive2001
Fourth Gear
Fourth Gear
 
Posts: 556
Joined: 29 Oct 2003

Total Online:

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 42 guests