Lotus Elan

1973 Lotus elan +2s 130 (was 5 speed), SOLD

PostPost by: barrydoran » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:15 pm

Car is now sold.

1973 Lotus elan +2s 130 ( was 5 speed, now 4 speed) , located in Liverpool.

Car is running, but not road worthy because of brakes ( servo ) + paint partly stripped so it looks unsightly.

The car is complete but in need of Cosmetic restoration. All mechanicals other than the servo are in good condition especially considering the low mileage ( 20K ) since the major overhaul by the previous owner in 1996.

Obviously the major aspect of the restoration would be the repainting of the replacement shell and interior trim restoration.

A selection of spares are included in the sale which you could sell to raise cash or store for future requirements, I estimate they have a market value of about ?1000.


Work undertaken by Previous Owner

Major rebuild in 1996 - mileage 88899 - total invoice cost ?8000 - Work Undertaken by the very highly regarded restorer Peter Day ( Daytune ) google him if you dont know his work.

- Replacement Lotus Galvanised Chassis
- New steering rack
- engine bay loom.
- New wishbones
- brake overhaul
- long list of new parts.

Engine rebuild 29/07/1996 - mileage 89455 - total cost ?3000 - Work Undertaken by Peter Day ( Daytune )

- Head skim
- rebore
- New pistons
- New bearings
- New waterpump
- new oil pump
- long list of new parts

MOT 31/7/1997 - Mileage 94390, ( 5k )
MOT 01/8/1998 - Mileage 99099, ( 5k )
MOT 30/8/1999 - Mileage 99099, ( Owner informs me Speedo stopped working which I confirmed when I
purchased the car in Jan 2000. Can only assume similar mileage of 5k )

I Purchased the car in Jan 2000.

Change speedo to one reading approx 50k, still have old speedo, reading ( 99099 )
MOT 25/08/2000 - Mileage 51231
MOT 02/10/2001 - Mileage 53587

Work undertaken during My ownership

- New front shocks
- New front Springs
- New rear shocks
- New door hinge pins machined.
- New Rear Outer wishbone bushes.
- Replaced broken 5 speed box with 4 speed box, including new clutch.
- New rotoflexes + bolts, (July 2000)
- Replacement rear hubs with new drive pegs.
- Stainless exhaust rearbox
- New exhaust centre pipe.

I can recall changing the oil at least three times in my ownership. Once straight after buying the car.
Once when the engine was out to change the gearbox (July 2001) and Finally just before the car was laid up in may 2002.

Servo Developed Problem so I took the car off road to repaint in may 2002. Started stripping paint but baby and house move meant the car has been stored ever since. Dry stored in my dads garage for 6 years and under a tarp for the last 2 years. Stored with Oil in the Bores and turned over by hand now and again.

Upon stripping the paint from the car it turned out a considerable amount of of accident damage has occured in the distant ( pre new chassis ) past. This had been repaired badly in my opinion with the use of lots of filler. This lead me to source a replacement shell which is in better shape although in need of stripping and painting.

Interior :- Needs retrim to front seats, new carpets, new dash. New door cards, new headlining.

Spares Included

- Lotus Elan 5 speed gearbox broken ( 3rd gear synchro hub broken )
- Lotus Elan 5 Speed Propshaft
- Lotus Elan 5 Speed Gearbox support bracket.
- 1979 Lotus ELite, Lotus 5 speed gearbox ( Condition unknown, although was told it was from a working car )

The Lotus 5 speed box was the original gearbox as fitted to the car when I purchased it. I was responsible
for breaking the Synchro hub and replaced the box whith a good 4 speed. I purchased an ELite 5 speed box with the intention of swapping the tailshaft and bellhousing to create a new 5 speed to fit the ELan. My plan was to build a working box using the best parts from the two. Overhaul Details are available in the workshop manual and a very good overview of additional improvements for the box can be found here :-

http://www.gglotus.org/ggtech/elan-5spd/elan5spd.pdf
elan-f15/lotus-speed-gearbox-uprating-victor-hollnagel-t18061.html

Some spares on Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LOTUS-5-SPEED-ALL ... 33502db9fd

Synchro rings are available on ebay as are some of the bearings. Good Elite boxes come up often on Ebay for relatively little money. The conversion process is a matter of swapping the bellhousing and Tailshaft from the Elan box. Once the box is working the only additional parts required are a 5 speed mounting bush and 5 speed clutch. 5 speed boxes fetch good money and I would expect a kit form one such as this to fetch at least ?300 if you did not decide to refurb and refit it yourself. Here's some examples from ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... K:MEWAX:IT

The following spares have either been bought by me or taken from the spares car I acquired and broke, they are not removed from the car which is complete but in need of comsmetic restoration.

1972 Body shell + vin plate + v5 ( tax exempt ) . Not currently fitted to the car an will require trailering, The majority of the replacement shell is still in its original paint which can be rubbed back to gel coat relatively quickly using only wet and dry. This shell has had a replacment front section which is more heavily painted hence the reason for the purchase of two tubs (~?75) of the fibreglass safe paint stripper RemovAll 620. These are included in the sale.

This stripper was developed for boats and will not attack the gel coat according to the manufacturer, see their website here :-

http://www.cirrus-systems.co.uk/index.p ... /-GRP.html

This product was also reviewed by Practical classics somt time ago, see here :-

http://www.cirrus-systems.co.uk/images/ ... cs_mag.pdf

There appears to be minimal crazing, but there is a small fibreglass repair needed to the nose area above where each light pod is housed.

- Bonnet
- doors
- 2 boot lids
- 2 light pods
- 5 lotus Knock on alloy wheels, 4 in very good condition, ie no lathe-ing, no hammer marks and no peg
hole deformation. Slight kerbing on all but not drastic, require repainting to make near perfect.
- Earlier windscreen Stainless surround, including spare bottom piece.
- 2 Original ( not repro ) Rear bumpers in need of rechroming, little or no denting to either, but plenty of
rust.
- 2 front bumpers in need of rechroming. One is perfect, the other has one slight dent.
- 2 Type 18 rear uprights including hubs and even the steel mud shields ( Quite rare I think, since
they were usually discared because they were so heavy)
- 2 rear springs, Bought new by myself but never fitted.
- Pedal box
- Large amount of Leather cloth fabric which matches the interior trim.
- New and unused chassis mounting Padding
- 2 Adjustable Koni rear strut inserts, used but rebuildable, probably working fine but replaced
as I could not find their age in the cars history.
- Non Chapman steering wheel, Slightly distorted.
- Pair rear calipers, look to have stainless pistons. Would require refurb.
- Girling powerstop servo, needs refurb.
- 4 Speed gear lever gaiter
- rear number plate lights
- indicator switch, unused
- 2 map reading lights
- pair of trunnions, threads look good
- interior or boot light
- various dash switches, all working but faded
- another pair trunnions, again threads are good
- Steering column Indicator cancelling thing ( new )
- Heater control
- choke cable
- puddle lights
- 2 Packs of lucas bullet connectors ( new in packs )
- Complete steering column with light / indicator switches
- handbrake lever
- 4 speed gearbox gaskets
- rear lights gaskets
- glove box + door + latch + switch + light
- bonnet stay ( decent plating )
- core plugs ( new )
- boot stay
- hand brake pads ( new )
- Hub drive pegs some, new
- new old stock front pads
- Complete set of gauges, all working
- intake grille
- various rear lights lenses all very good including 1 new
- dash top vents
- 2 throttle cables, unused
- Bonnet release cable, good nick
- Boot release cable, NOS
- Side light lenses, not to badly cracked.
- 1 rear and 1 side light, pitted but have seen worse.
- Original Stanpart radiator
- Complete set of front wishbones, holes good not elongated, strengthening washers still in place
- Set of Front lower wishbones, ok condition, still have strengthening washers
- 2* Alloy wheel steel inserts for knock on spinner.

I have taken pictures of some of the spares.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/

I dont however have any pictures of the car yet, duh. I'm currently using a work
laptop which is locked down ( no USB access ) So I cant upload pics of the car.
I'll go and use a friends machine and upload some pics of the car tomorrow.

Car is located in Maghull, Just outside Liverpool handy for the m57, m58 and M6.

I'm looking for ?4500.

PM me if your interested and you want my phone number for a chat

Thanks Barry.
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PostPost by: barrydoran » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:25 pm

A couple of people have asked why I'm selling so to save further questions I'll put it here.

Basically the car and my back do not go together. This car has caused me no end of back pain, every job involves bending at ridiculous angles. My back had been fine for years until This summer when I foolishly started work on the car again, now I'm booked in with specialist probably looking at surgery.

Please get this destroyer of spines out of my life so I can stop wasting time fantasising about completing it.

Barry ( in pain ).
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PostPost by: Bob » Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:32 pm

Barry,
Can you post some photos of the torture instrument
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PostPost by: barrydoran » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:57 pm

pictures added, I used flikr instead of finding out how to work the picture posting thing on here.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/


I can take further pics if required.

Thanks.

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PostPost by: barrydoran » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:10 pm

Just a pointer, on flikr you click on the "all sizes" icon to get a larger image.

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PostPost by: barrydoran » Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:52 pm

Apologies, I checked the identity of the supposed '72 shell last night and its actually a '74. No idea how I made this mistake. Genuinely not intended to mislead.

Somebody has pointed out however that there is a chance that my '73 car may be exempt since it was registered in Feb 1973 and hence may actually be built in 72.

Does anybody know how I confirm when a car was built not registered?

Thanks

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PostPost by: Elanintheforest » Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:45 pm

The first 4 digits of the chassis number, on the vin plate, give the year and month of build (YYMM).

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PostPost by: barrydoran » Sat Jul 10, 2010 1:10 pm

73016nnnL Damn, how close is that.
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PostPost by: Tonyw » Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:32 am

Barry,

Sorry to see you intending to sell your car because of a back problem. I had a back operation in 2001 and have not looked back since at 60 next birthday I feel good enough to go back to my original trade of being a mechanic instead of my current PM job.

Good luck with the car and the back

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PostPost by: barrydoran » Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:51 am

Thanks for the support Tony, Its people like you that I'm listening to.

People who haven't had a back problem pull faces and shake their head at the mention of surgery.

Just to get the thread back on track, the asking price is ?4500 ONO

Thanks.

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PostPost by: barrydoran » Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:42 am

Asking Price is now ?4000

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PostPost by: barrydoran » Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:11 am

?4000 or near offer, before I get ideas about finishing it myself again.

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PostPost by: barrydoran » Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:02 pm

SOLD. :-)
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