Elan Sprint Jack and handle
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Can someone post a photo of an original jack and jack handle for a 1963 Elan S1? My car didn't come with one when I bought it (although many many parts that were changed out over the years did come with it). I'd like to know what it looks like as it doesn't seem that the Sprint jack is right for this car. Thanks
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au-yt wrote:The really daft thing about the cost of exotic tooling like the Ferrari Jack, is the same one fits Maseratis of that era and probably others and they were off the shelf items at the time and come from quite pedestrian cars.. find the car take the jack... throw away the car make nice profit from the jack.
Graeme
Graeme that is not quite true.
The Ferrari Jacks were made by Battaini and like our Metallifacture were specialist in the product and as well as making for Ferrari produced for aftermarket and many other car companies like Alfa, Maserati etc.
What is true many jacks shared the basic principals in design usually within a particular lift manufacturer and as a result could look similar to the untrained eye and easily confused.
The screw bodies varied in diameter depending on the vehicle weight and whether two or four point lift. Also the lifting arm would have differences in position depending on the ride height of the car and or the design of body form for entry.
The Dino Ferrari jack here looks exactly like the one I had on my 246 and I would say by the detail of the handle knob and the lower attachment of the lift arm from the best I can tell by enlarging the picture against some of my old pictures it looks absolutely genuine and I believe unique to the Ferrari platform.
Hard to think there could be thousands of pounds difference in the price though of the 3 jacks pictured yet easy for anyone at a glance to think they are much the same. The lower one is for the Dino
Rohan sorry if I missed it as humour, that is why I asked.....my senses usually comes along after a few morning doses of cafiene but it was early here in France when I responded.
Phil H..........the 80's was a strange period here in the UK and early 80's saw a massive growth in classic car prices. Indeed you could almost buy anything and sell it the next day for double. I paid ?13 K for my Dino and by 1987 I could have easily have sold it for ?100K..........I saw the values then plummit again after the October 86/7 stock market crash and when I traded the Dino(circa ?30K)+?10k cash for the 308 I have, as the 308 prices appeared a little more stable, 3 years later the Dino was back up to ?60K and the 308 down to ?28K bearing in mind I have the last of the Weber down draught model.
In saying that the Ferrari guys seem happy to pay silly money up to ?10 each to have yellow insert nyloc nuts as these were standard Ferrari fit. I buy a bag of 100 blue ones for less than that.....but again I have never been a concours perfectionist and would happily stick with a simple bottle jack in the boot than pay the prices being asked.
Regards
Steve
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Classic 60's Sports cars seem to go through a life cycle more or less a follows in my observation:
1. new 60's
2. trashed 70's
3. modified 80's
4. restored 90's
5. restored again with more originality ( maybe more than once) 00's
6. the now expensive and original cars sit in garages 10's
7. ????? not yet reached for classic 60's sports cars
If you go back to the 30's the same occurred with pre-war sports cars of that era and at stage 7 a few appreciate to ridiculous values as museum pieces and investments and the rest decline in price as their attraction lessens with the aging and passing of people attracted to them.
cheers
Rohan
PS Interesting as the Dino never even carried a Ferrari badge people claim its a Ferrari .
1. new 60's
2. trashed 70's
3. modified 80's
4. restored 90's
5. restored again with more originality ( maybe more than once) 00's
6. the now expensive and original cars sit in garages 10's
7. ????? not yet reached for classic 60's sports cars
If you go back to the 30's the same occurred with pre-war sports cars of that era and at stage 7 a few appreciate to ridiculous values as museum pieces and investments and the rest decline in price as their attraction lessens with the aging and passing of people attracted to them.
cheers
Rohan
PS Interesting as the Dino never even carried a Ferrari badge people claim its a Ferrari .
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rgh0 wrote:PS Interesting as the Dino never even carried a Ferrari badge people claim its a Ferrari .
Ouch Rohan............Enzo Ferrari greatly troubled by the death of his son Dino named the car after him instead.
Regards
Steve
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Plus 2 wrote:rgh0 wrote:PS Interesting as the Dino never even carried a Ferrari badge people claim its a Ferrari .
Ouch Rohan............Enzo Ferrari greatly troubled by the death of his son Dino named the car after him instead.
Regards
Steve
Yes I know
That's why they were so cheap in the 70's - people said they were not true Ferraris - no badge and no V12
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rgh0 wrote:Plus 2 wrote:rgh0 wrote:PS Interesting as the Dino never even carried a Ferrari badge people claim its a Ferrari .
Ouch Rohan............Enzo Ferrari greatly troubled by the death of his son Dino named the car after him instead.
Regards
Steve
Yes I know
That's why they were so cheap in the 70's - people said they were not true Ferraris - no badge and no V12
Rohan ,
Absolutely I had friends how bought tired ones in the early 80s for 25KAUD and a Muira for 18KAUD!
now they are commodities....
http://www.historicautomobilegroup.com/
Graeme
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au-yt wrote:PS Interesting as the Dino never even carried a Ferrari badge people claim its a Ferrari
Ouch Rohan............Enzo Ferrari greatly troubled by the death of his son Dino named the car after him instead.
Regards
Steve
Yes I know
That's why they were so cheap in the 70's - people said they were not true Ferraris - no badge and no V12
Rohan ,
Absolutely I had friends how bought tired ones in the early 80s for 25KAUD and a Muira for 18KAUD!
now they are commodities....
http://www.historicautomobilegroup.com/
Graeme
Hi,
Maybe you guys have had a different perspective on the cars values in Aus.
However as this thread may interestingly drift into old car values and 'certified lotus' who still remains with his more 'on topic' request unanswered that may get buried to be fair I will follow up in a new topic in the off subject areas to answer.
I do need some caffeine first though to get my sense of humour up to speed and look back at the old AUS exchange rates back then as this era was pre my company sellout for lottery winning figures but 25K even in AUS dollars in late 70's early 80's was still a lot of money IIRC
http://www.classicandperformancecar.com ... 08gt4.html
Regards
Steve
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