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PostPost by: gordont » Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:03 am

off the subject I know but seeing the images of Georges (VERY nice elan) reminded me to ask the below...

with the 26R type spinners (for the knock on wheels) are people tightening these with a leather hammer or using the 3 eared socked attachement I have seen around from time? and if using the socket attachement who is selling these nowadays?
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PostPost by: elancoupe » Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:25 am

gordont wrote:off the subject I know but seeing the images of Georges (VERY nice elan) reminded me to ask the below...

with the 26R type spinners (for the knock on wheels) are people tightening these with a leather hammer or using the 3 eared socked attachement I have seen around from time? and if using the socket attachement who is selling these nowadays?



I use a compothane coated hammer on my 26R spinners, but am hoping that Sarto will make such a tool to fit them.
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PostPost by: mac5777 » Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:55 am

Hi Mike, I am working on a new and improved (sounds like a soap box ad) knockoff spinner tool that simply grips the ears further out on the spinner. By doing this it will fit the 10 spoke lotus alloys and now the early 26R spinners. I even have hopes of fitting the Cobra type 3 eared spinners. It may take a few more months to complete the process.

It will have a optional plastic protector to replace the leather protectors. I like the leather protection for its vintage look. No increase in price, its still $139.00 USD. Dave Bean Engineering, Ray at RDEnterprises and JAE lotus still have the 3 eared and the two eared spinners tools available for the Elans.

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PostPost by: cabc26b » Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:16 pm

Gordon -

I gave up on the soft hammer when it did not do the job - I use a really big hammer and a 20+mm thick flat piece of aluminum that was once a 935 drop-link. I knock them down to the same depth that I know works , put a line of inspection lacquer from spinner to hub/wheel and then safety-wire the spinner to the wheel.

Another picture to show the wheel - spinner not dinged and if you look close on the hub you can see the red-lacquer - for the fender flare issue look towards the front and you can get an idea how far out the fender goes -

George

PS - To dag's and others points your limitation on the 6" inch rim and limits on track drive the extension of the fenders.
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PostPost by: ftsoft » Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:02 pm

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paddy wrote:I don't see what's wrong with the arches/flares - to me they look like what TTR usually supplies. The widest wheel homologated by FIA was 6", so for an FIA car I don't think they would need to be wider anyway.

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I was the mechanic for an ex factory elan in 1967-68 and measured the rear flare at 4 inches larger than my street elan. Perhaps this car was illegal but it passed tech in regional and national races throughout the northeast and canada.

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What words can say, I can't see or envision. 4 inches larger how? Have a look at the following topic, there are just about every type of flair from all over the Internet and my backyard too. From but ugly to beautiful, the whole range of idea's used to hide the black round tires that have grown over the years. If you see one like the Elan you are describing, please point it out so that we can understand exactly what you mean.
elan-photos-f18/elan-flairs-the-good-the-bad-and-some-ugly-ones-t16400.html

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Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately the car was destroyed at St. Jovite in 1968. I looked at the photos and that isn't really what i meant. The entire rear of the car was wider as I recall (memory could be failing here). I don't know the provenance of the car, but we raced SCCA C production and the rules were pretty strict. I don't think that i imagined this. I measured because I had trouble running 550 Goodyear RR4's on my elan because of the close bodywork and he was running something larger than that. Also, I recall competing against elans in socal that were running really wide low profile tires. No way I could get those on, but I think they had made transaxle mods.

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PostPost by: garyeanderson » Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:04 pm

http://www.gglotus.org/ggtech/26rdefine/26rx.htm

Hi Frank
Sounds like you are refering to the one decribed in the link above.

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PostPost by: bcmc33 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:14 pm

Back to Ben's original post - Yes, very nice 26R.

I gave it a good look today, and it is original in the most part.

It is an S2 with the original VIN plate rivetted to the TTR lightweight shell.
The chassis is original but modified to achieve the latest TTR spec.
Original BRM engine modified with some TTR goodies.
There is a complete racing history with all the relevant FIA documentation.

So, if you're interested, rush down to Matty's with your cheque book before the queue gets too long.
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PostPost by: ftsoft » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:36 pm

garyeanderson wrote:http://www.gglotus.org/ggtech/26rdefine/26rx.htm

Hi Frank
Sounds like you are refering to the one decribed in the link above.

Gary



Thanks for pointing me to the article. Yes, I'm pretty sure that was the same car. It was driven by Don Flores and he ran circles around me at Lime Rock. I lost track of him after the shunt, but assumed that he did not rebuild the car.

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PostPost by: elansprint71 » Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:15 pm

msd1107 wrote:Hmmm, so the factory built a 26R FHC?

Does the FIA accept a FHC in historic racing?

If so, maybe Tony Thompson should offer FHCs as well as roadsters. A FHC can be prepared somewhat better.

Just idle thoughts while waiting for the Super Bowl.

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No, not a 26/R, it is an S3. :roll:
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PostPost by: curly type 26 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:40 pm

I know for sure that Richard Milner had a Lotus factory produced rally spec elan he came to visit me when i lived in Hillingdon Middx back in late 77, i remember him explaining that fact, i believe it was light blue.but coud be wrong Was it the same one? or is there more than one? :wink: Curly 1964 26Rr
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PostPost by: elansprint71 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:09 am

Ian Walker Racing produced a rally Elan LGX 5D which won the class in the 1966 Tulip Rally. Photo in Chris Harvey's book. He refers to it as a Gold Bug, but in the (B&W) shot it does not look gold, it looks a darker colour. Any info, chaps?
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