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PostPost by: alan.barker » Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:55 am

3.9 Ltr V8 Rover in Stag imho a nice choice.
Nice sound track a la TVR with plenty of grunt. + not tooo heavy all alloy.
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PostPost by: RichardS » Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:20 am

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PostPost by: shynsy » Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:55 pm

alan.barker wrote:3.9 Ltr V8 Rover in Stag imho a nice choice.
Nice sound track a la TVR with plenty of grunt. + not tooo heavy all alloy.
Alan


It is very nice to drive, basically only need 4th and overdrive 4th if you want to have a relaxed drive.
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PostPost by: alan.barker » Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:47 pm

Very nice indeed.
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PostPost by: mark030358 » Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:27 pm

Very nice... an early one I guess?
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PostPost by: h20hamelan » Sun Dec 29, 2024 5:16 pm

Depends on the motoring i suppose

A screaming tc isn’t for me on a long haul, the +2 sort of takes the edge off. Maybe a 3:1 diff or 5speed OD etc

Intended purpose i suppose

I had an Anglia, Spitfire, 99, 765. But lusted for a Stag, never found one in Canada. Almost got a MGA, TD, TR250 and recently acquired a 1962 TR4 that will have a 2.3 or 2.5 Duratec and 5-speed. Maybe it will grow on me, I do like Stags, but, I would stick with an Elan & add some gearing :?
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PostPost by: elans3 » Sun Dec 29, 2024 5:19 pm

I wouldn't but as above, you get what you need from a car. Although I'm 70, I still have a yen for the dynamism and lightness of the original Elan, and, despite it's few drawbacks, and me having had lots of sportscars & sports saloons in my past, it's the car I keep going back to.
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PostPost by: masey123 » Sun Dec 29, 2024 5:45 pm

Not a chance why swap a superb car for a bag of nails sorry if you own a stag but i had a TR4 before my Elan and it was the biggest heap of crap i have ever owned 1940s design being dragged through to the 70s i would never have a BMC car as a classic again ive owned a midget which was fun then a sunbeam alpine which was a pain and then the triumph both were crap to drive 5 mins in the elan wa like a different world and would only ever have a elan as a classic
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PostPost by: Sadbrewer » Sun Dec 29, 2024 9:18 pm

mark030358 wrote:In response…
I like to drive the Swiss Alps and have done it in my Exige and Elise. I had hoped to do it with a 5 speed equipped Elan but that’s now not going to happen, as the Lotus 5 speed is coming out ( I can’t live with it) and the original 4 speed back in. I’m also not sure I’d find it easy to drive from Rotterdam to Switzerland with just a 4 speed as a 70mph cruise is +4000 rpm. The down side to the other 2 cars is boot space, and there is no way my better half would do 2 weeks away with a rucksack :roll: Hence thinking about a Stag, I also had TR6’s in the day and probably one of those would work, especially with the A type overdrive (7 forward gears).

Mrs says I can’t have another without selling one…. So something to mull over in my retirement.

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If a bit more space inside and in the boot is a boon, plus a 5 speed box, why not retain the Lotus connection and look at the Jensen-Healey?
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PostPost by: shynsy » Sun Dec 29, 2024 9:24 pm

mark030358 wrote:Very nice... an early one I guess?

'72 so a mk1.5. Goes with my '72 elan and '72 spitfire.
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PostPost by: shynsy » Sun Dec 29, 2024 9:29 pm

masey123 wrote:Not a chance why swap a superb car for a bag of nails sorry if you own a stag but i had a TR4 before my Elan and it was the biggest heap of crap i have ever owned 1940s design being dragged through to the 70s i would never have a BMC car as a classic again ive owned a midget which was fun then a sunbeam alpine which was a pain and then the triumph both were crap to drive 5 mins in the elan wa like a different world and would only ever have a elan as a classic


No offence taken but for the record the stag is totally different technology than the TR4. It has independent suspension all round for example and is unitary rather than a ladder chassis..
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PostPost by: greg40green » Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:11 pm

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350BHP supercharged. auto , this will get you around Switzerland / Europe without issues .

mark030358 wrote:.... your Sprint for a Stag ??

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PostPost by: alan.barker » Mon Dec 30, 2024 4:55 am

Sadbrewer wrote:
mark030358 wrote:In response…
I like to drive the Swiss Alps and have done it in my Exige and Elise. I had hoped to do it with a 5 speed equipped Elan but that’s now not going to happen, as the Lotus 5 speed is coming out ( I can’t live with it) and the original 4 speed back in. I’m also not sure I’d find it easy to drive from Rotterdam to Switzerland with just a 4 speed as a 70mph cruise is +4000 rpm. The down side to the other 2 cars is boot space, and there is no way my better half would do 2 weeks away with a rucksack :roll: Hence thinking about a Stag, I also had TR6’s in the day and probably one of those would work, especially with the A type overdrive (7 forward gears).

Mrs says I can’t have another without selling one…. So something to mull over in my retirement.

Cheers
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If a bit more space inside and in the boot is a boon, plus a 5 speed box, why not retain the Lotus connection and look at the Jensen-Healey?

Another example of an Engine that loves blowing Head Gaskets + likes rusting away tooo :shock: :shock:

For the TR4 there was the TR4 IRS with independant suspension.
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PostPost by: h20hamelan » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:05 am

Not all TR4’s have IRS, and, maybe in a heavy steel car its not as necessary.
Butt, the styling is nice. Like a Stag.

Don’t get me going on the best quiver of vehicles please. Over 40 cars here, less than 15 by next year I hope.

Most of mine will have the Duratec.
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PostPost by: shynsy » Mon Dec 30, 2024 9:49 am

h20hamelan wrote:Not all TR4’s have IRS, and, maybe in a heavy steel car its not as necessary.
Butt, the styling is nice. Like a Stag.

Don’t get me going on the best quiver of vehicles please. Over 40 cars here, less than 15 by next year I hope.

Most of mine will have the Duratec.


:-) could be a fun discussion!

Just forwarding completeness. TR4 was live axle rear. TR4A was independent, trailing arms. As an aside I think the weight of the trailing arms would have made colin chapman wince, very agricultural.
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