WARNING ELAN FRAUD

[bcmc33]

I just received this to highlight another aspect of how fraud can be conducted:
http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/for ... hp?id=1328

[ardee_selby]

I just received this to highlight another aspect of how fraud can be conducted:
http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/for ... hp?id=1328

Yep...forewarned is forearmed and all that...

http://www.cybercrimeops.com/forums/sho ... php?t=9326

(Assuming the link & website is real! But there is a warning about one of the "ekm-express" clones on the site...somewhere..."???-express" ? Can't find it now)

[bcmc33]

I just received this to highlight another aspect of how fraud can be conducted:
http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/for ... hp?id=1328

Yep...forewarned is forearmed and all that...

http://www.cybercrimeops.com/forums/sho ... php?t=9326

(Assuming the link & website is real! But there is a warning about one of the "ekm-express" clones on the site...somewhere..."???-express" ? Can't find it now)

Richard,

There is an element of truth about part of the dialogue stated in the link, and people that knew this element of truth could be persuaded that the whole thing is true. I will PM you details as I don't think it is the sort of thing to be shared publicly.

[twincamman]

welll lets all pull his chain and e mail him were interested in the car up to the send the money part ----then claim the money was sent [ of course we dont send any money -----for the more easily tempted ] - --ed

[billwill]

<snip> I doubt that the name Joanna has any significance, I doubt that the crim is female. Joanna is almost certainly the same person as the one who 'owns' the domain name EKM-express.com, because that person also owns a whole bunch of similar domain names for making more fake escrow/transport companies. It is in Italy, hence my comment above.

Bill,

Do the "Technical" & "Billing" contacts, being in Selangor, mean ANYTHING at all in this scenario?

Per http://whois.domaintools.com/ekm-express.com

WRT OP "This company got good feedback on e-bay..." Presumably another fake website rather than fake feedback on a genuine ebay?

The Technicall & Billing contacts are the owners of the servers that host the website. They may not be involved in the scam.

[robheuft]

Johanna Doblhofer presented a Autin Healey last year under the name of Klara Schmidt, exactly the same story about reason for selling. I investigated and found out that there was no shippingfirm excisting. I warned the Dutch Autoscout.nl for taking off the advertisement of the Lotus Elan. So they did. Probably Nigerian people involved, to my opinion a case for Interpol

[Jens]

Rob,

Are you by any chance involved in the Dutch Saab Club?

Cheers

[twincamman]

well If you are waiting for the cops to do any thing your in for a along wait, they only care about their pay day . They also can kill you for not obeying their commands . Sadly a mute [a large man with a beard] walking with his mother caught the attention of the Metro Toronto police on Bloor at Christie St.in Toronto . Obviously he could not hear the commands to stop so the cops [2] gang tackled him and he dies of a fractured skull ---just one example of police over exuberance and they will walk away from it --just one example of the Gestapo tactics the cops have adopted -better take care of business yourself ed

[yanni]

I have an appointment at 9 Utting Avenue East
Liverpool L11 1DQ at the end on the week to see and may be buy a car( a Dodge charger 1968) I come from south of France it?s a pretty long way and quite expensive
If the AD for the car was a fraud I don?t want to lose my time and money for nothing
Please tell me if 9 Utting Avenue-east exist or if it have often been use for car fraud
many thanks

[paddy]

Please tell me if 9 Utting Avenue-east exist or if it have often been use for car fraud

At least it exists:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=L11+1DQ ... m&t=m&z=16

But then there's this:

http://www.mopar.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=12177

Paddy

[oldelanman]

Utting Avenue East certainly exists but I don't think there is a number 9. Lowest house number listed by Royal Mail is 23. Also the Postcode L11 1DQ relates to even numbers, odd numbers are LD11 5AA.

http://www.royalmail.com/postcode-finder

I would be very suspicious.

[elansprint71]

Looking at this address on Bing maps Bird's-eye view it appears to either be the Anfield Crematorium or a school-type building.

I would not risk making the journey. This is not a very "pleasant" part of Liverpool.

[elanfan1]

Yanni,

Take a look at page 6 of this very thread and the 4th post down by 'Ray'.

This Utting Avenue is the exact same address given to Ray - - definitely a scam/fraud stay clear and don't waste your time. Infact waste some of their time by playing along with it.

[types26/36]

Well I cant find a no.9 as there are only about five houses from no. 31 then as Pete says there is some other sort of building.

[elanfan1]

The address is irrelevant. The car nor vendor exists. This is another scam - DO NOT BE FOOLED!