red chassis paint

[guerrilla garage]

I'm looking for a good color and appearance match for the OEM red
(lead?) paint on the chassis of my S2. I thought I remembered reading
about this topic before but when I went back and searched the archives
I could find lots of discussion about epoxy primers and paints, powder
coatings, zinc chromate etc. but no mention of the red stuff. I would
have sworn I'd seen sombody advertise selling the stuff but I can't
find it now. Any help appreciated. Also does anybody happen to know
offhand if the wishbones were originally painted at all, and if so with
what? thanks, Steve

[BenL]

On 1/31/06, guerrilla1 <***@***.***> wrote:

Try searching for "red oxide" and "chassis paint".
---Ben

[ngiovas]

As far as I know the red color on the early chassis was just a red oxide
primer.

I picked a reddish powder coat that is similar.

Nick

-----Original Message-----
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Of guerrilla1
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:35 PM
To: ***@***.***
Subject: [LotusElan.net] red chassis paint

I'm looking for a good color and appearance match for the OEM red
(lead?) paint on the chassis of my S2. I thought I remembered reading
about this topic before but when I went back and searched the archives
I could find lots of discussion about epoxy primers and paints, powder
coatings, zinc chromate etc. but no mention of the red stuff. I would
have sworn I'd seen sombody advertise selling the stuff but I can't
find it now. Any help appreciated. Also does anybody happen to know
offhand if the wishbones were originally painted at all, and if so with
what? thanks, Steve

[grat]

On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 08:50:24PM -0500, Nick Giovas wrote:



Is the powder coat glossy or flat? what did they charge you
for that? (I'm thinking about doing the same thing. just curious.)

fj..

[Gordon Sauer]

The chassis color is a flat, pourous, primer looking paint just like red
oxide primer or that Rust Encapsulator stuff from Eastwood. My S3 DHC had black
painted, semi-gloss pretty much, wishbones. It's a 68 titled car I bought in
72 and nothing on it had been painted but the body. The red oxide primer color
is the same color as on the sill rails I just dragged out of my 72 +2s 130
that were original with rot to prove it--they were still using that red even
then.Gordon Sauer

[ngiovas]

Fj,

He powder coated it with the red oxide color first and then applied a flat
clear coat to make the finish dull. It turned out fantastic. The only
thing I would have done differently was to follow his recommendation on the
color. He had a color chart and recommended a specific color, but I thought
another one was a closer match. It ends up he was probably right because
the one I chose had slightly more orange in it than I would like.
Unfortunately, the color charts aren't exact. When I did my wheels he
sprayed several samples on 2"x4" metal cards so I could see how they would
look. I would recommend asking for samples before making a final color
selection.

I don't remember the exact cost, but if I remember correctly it was around
$225.00 for the chassis with both coats of powder.

Nick

-----Original Message-----
From: ***@***.***lto:***@***.*** Behalf
Of Franklin R. Jones
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:50 PM
To: ***@***.***
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] red chassis paint

On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 08:50:24PM -0500, Nick Giovas wrote:



Is the powder coat glossy or flat? what did they charge you
for that? (I'm thinking about doing the same thing. just curious.)

fj..

[ngiovas]

Steve,
For the wishbones, check out Eastwood's chassis black paint. It has a
slight amount of gloss, but not too much. It is also very durable. I like
it because you can buy it in cans for small jobs or in quarts for larger
jobs. They recommend applying it without a primer.

If you watch their site they will have 10% off ever once in a while.

-----Original Message-----
From: ***@***.***lto:***@***.*** Behalf
Of guerrilla1
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:35 PM
To: ***@***.***
Subject: [LotusElan.net] red chassis paint

I'm looking for a good color and appearance match for the OEM red
(lead?) paint on the chassis of my S2. I thought I remembered reading
about this topic before but when I went back and searched the archives
I could find lots of discussion about epoxy primers and paints, powder
coatings, zinc chromate etc. but no mention of the red stuff. I would
have sworn I'd seen sombody advertise selling the stuff but I can't
find it now. Any help appreciated. Also does anybody happen to know
offhand if the wishbones were originally painted at all, and if so with
what? thanks, Steve

[ngiovas]

-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Giovas [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 5:14 AM
To: '***@***.***'
Subject: RE: [LotusElan.net] red chassis paint

Fj,

He powder coated it with the red oxide color first and then applied a flat
clear coat to make the finish dull. It turned out fantastic. The only
thing I would have done differently was to follow his recommendation on the
color. He had a color chart and recommended a specific color, but I thought
another one was a closer match. It ends up he was probably right because
the one I chose had slightly more orange in it than I would like.
Unfortunately, the color charts aren't exact. When I did my wheels he
sprayed several samples on 2"x4" metal cards so I could see how they would
look. I would recommend asking for samples before making a final color
selection.

I don't remember the exact cost, but if I remember correctly it was around
$225.00 for the chassis with both coats of powder.

Nick

-----Original Message-----
From: ***@***.***lto:***@***.*** Behalf
Of Franklin R. Jones
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:50 PM
To: ***@***.***
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] red chassis paint

On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 08:50:24PM -0500, Nick Giovas wrote:



Is the powder coat glossy or flat? what did they charge you
for that? (I'm thinking about doing the same thing. just curious.)

fj..

[memini55]

Franklin,
The local shop here can do the powder coat in all forms of finish, flat,
semi-gloss and gloss finish. Lots of option on color also.
Cost for doing sand blast to front and rear frame sections of a mini cooper
and doing all the suspension parts, brake drums and hubs cost me $450. The
only thing to watch out for is any threads, shafts or races need to be taped
off before powder coating or one gets to chase all threads with a tap and
sand all the other areas down to metal again
The finish is great and looks like it will holdup well.
Mark Doubet

[grat]

On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 06:19:37PM -0500, Nick Giovas wrote:

Anyone know of a good shop in colorado? perferably near Denver?

I have a recommendation in Grand Junction but would have to haul the
chassis through the rockies during the winter. not ideal.

fj..

[holywood3645]

I just completed this on my S4 had it powder coated. I had to special
order the powder and i'm very pleased with the result. I can e-mail
you photos. I had the orginal color matched and have the code. give me
an address you can receive photos
Jim
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--- In ***@***.***, "guerrilla1" <sotuknang@...> wrote:

[Bill]

Hi all.

My Elan, Chassis# 0538 , frame was origionly factory done in red oxid primer.

During restoration I had the frame chemically stripped - paint, rust,grease all gone and the bare metal left acid etched for finishing.

I then damn near killed myself applying a VERY TOXIC 2 part epoxy primer (for preservation). You use lots of ventilation in that process.

I overcoated with red oxid primer after the 2 part. It looks as from the factory, and the shiney spots on the frame from the oil leaks still look exceptionally origional.

Bill, 1963 S1, #26/0538
1965 S2, #26/4738
----- Original Message -----
From: holywood3645
To: ***@***.***
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 1:33 PM
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Re: red chassis paint


I just completed this on my S4 had it powder coated. I had to special
order the powder and i'm very pleased with the result. I can e-mail
you photos. I had the orginal color matched and have the code. give me
an address you can receive photos
Jim
***@***.***
--- In ***@***.***, "guerrilla1" <sotuknang@...> wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a good color and appearance match for the OEM red
> (lead?) paint on the chassis of my S2. I thought I remembered
reading
> about this topic before but when I went back and searched the
archives
> I could find lots of discussion about epoxy primers and paints,
powder
> coatings, zinc chromate etc. but no mention of the red stuff. I
would
> have sworn I'd seen sombody advertise selling the stuff but I can't
> find it now. Any help appreciated. Also does anybody happen to know
> offhand if the wishbones were originally painted at all, and if so
with
> what? thanks, Steve
>












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PS

The wishbones on an S2 from the factory were painted a crappy gloss black. Crappy Silver on my S1. I guess that Colin got a spray bomb deal.

Powder coat them.

Iwish I did

Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: holywood3645
To: ***@***.***
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 1:33 PM
Subject: [LotusElan.net] Re: red chassis paint


I just completed this on my S4 had it powder coated. I had to special
order the powder and i'm very pleased with the result. I can e-mail
you photos. I had the orginal color matched and have the code. give me
an address you can receive photos
Jim
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--- In ***@***.***, "guerrilla1" <sotuknang@...> wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a good color and appearance match for the OEM red
> (lead?) paint on the chassis of my S2. I thought I remembered
reading
> about this topic before but when I went back and searched the
archives
> I could find lots of discussion about epoxy primers and paints,
powder
> coatings, zinc chromate etc. but no mention of the red stuff. I
would
> have sworn I'd seen sombody advertise selling the stuff but I can't
> find it now. Any help appreciated. Also does anybody happen to know
> offhand if the wishbones were originally painted at all, and if so
with
> what? thanks, Steve
>












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