Anyone with Zetec-in-baby-Elan experience?
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BDR's are sooo much cooler than Zetecs
only hurts the pocketbook
cheers,
Scott
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Scott
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Ken
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Subject: RE: [LotusElan.net] Anyone with Zetec-in-baby-Elan experience?
BDR's are sooo much cooler than Zetecs
only hurts the pocketbook
cheers,
Scott
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Subject: RE: [LotusElan.net] Anyone with Zetec-in-baby-Elan experience?
BDR's are sooo much cooler than Zetecs
only hurts the pocketbook
cheers,
Scott
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Something else occurred to me over the weekend concerning this subject.
Original +2 should be going up in value. The reason being that not as many
+2's as +0's were made, and because they have not held their price as well,
many more have been scrapped. Further more, many of the remaining have
gained zetec's courtesy of spyder. Consequently there will not be many
original one's left, unlike +0's which are as common as muck!
Another point on the email below; while I except the +2 is not as attractive
as the +0, I would not put it in the same category as the Elite! I wonder if
anyone has ever grafted a +0 nose onto a +2?
David
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Kyle [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: 06 September 2005 04:05
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Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] Anyone with Zetec-in-baby-Elan experience?
Michael Geiger wrote:
First off - I think the reason that you can get +2s for so cheap is that
for most people, they're just not very attractive. It's the same reason
that the Europa, 70s Elite, Eclat, etc, aren't very valuable. If you're
only interested in the value of what's in your garage - well, a Lotus of
any sort is probably not the best choice of cars.
As I said earlier, an '05 STi is my daily driver (traded in an '02 WRX)
so I'm well aware of the charm of the turbo Subaru. (Actually, I seem to
recall that in the US, Lotus considered the STi as a competitor of the
Elise... I guess they often appeal to the same people.)
However - last time I checked, an Elan with a Zetec engine and Spyder
chassis hardly counts as "common"; in fact, technically it's much more
unique than a stock Elan. (Unless you feel that the engine is the only
thing that matters, in which case, you obviously aren't interested in
the Elise, what with all those Celicas running around!) Whether or not
that's desirable is a question that everyone has to answer for themself.
There's certainly not many cars running around that are remotely like a
Zetec Elan, and I don't WANT the conveniences on my Lotus. (I prefer my
S2 Elan to later ones partly due to the lack of electric windows, etc.)
But have to fear, my car is already making yours more valuable by it's
non-originality; in fact I've often said that if circumstances ever
forced me to sell my Elan, I'd make a mold of the flares and then stick
'em on the Elan I'd buy when fortune turned my way again - I like 'em
that much. Original is fine if you're talking a 1960 Chrysler 300F (or
matching-numbers Hemi Road Runner or heck, a Model T) - but this is an
ELAN, a car that basically started life as a kit car and was meant to be
driven, not to be a museum piece. I'd also agree with what Tony said
earlier, there does not seem to be a severe shortage of nice Elans out
there.
Ah well. I'm still at least a year away from actually doing anything,
but I'm used to getting abuse about whether or not my car is "real" - I
used to own a Porsche 914.
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Original +2 should be going up in value. The reason being that not as many
+2's as +0's were made, and because they have not held their price as well,
many more have been scrapped. Further more, many of the remaining have
gained zetec's courtesy of spyder. Consequently there will not be many
original one's left, unlike +0's which are as common as muck!
Another point on the email below; while I except the +2 is not as attractive
as the +0, I would not put it in the same category as the Elite! I wonder if
anyone has ever grafted a +0 nose onto a +2?
David
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Kyle [mailto:***@***.***
Sent: 06 September 2005 04:05
To: ***@***.***
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] Anyone with Zetec-in-baby-Elan experience?
Michael Geiger wrote:
First off - I think the reason that you can get +2s for so cheap is that
for most people, they're just not very attractive. It's the same reason
that the Europa, 70s Elite, Eclat, etc, aren't very valuable. If you're
only interested in the value of what's in your garage - well, a Lotus of
any sort is probably not the best choice of cars.
As I said earlier, an '05 STi is my daily driver (traded in an '02 WRX)
so I'm well aware of the charm of the turbo Subaru. (Actually, I seem to
recall that in the US, Lotus considered the STi as a competitor of the
Elise... I guess they often appeal to the same people.)
However - last time I checked, an Elan with a Zetec engine and Spyder
chassis hardly counts as "common"; in fact, technically it's much more
unique than a stock Elan. (Unless you feel that the engine is the only
thing that matters, in which case, you obviously aren't interested in
the Elise, what with all those Celicas running around!) Whether or not
that's desirable is a question that everyone has to answer for themself.
There's certainly not many cars running around that are remotely like a
Zetec Elan, and I don't WANT the conveniences on my Lotus. (I prefer my
S2 Elan to later ones partly due to the lack of electric windows, etc.)
But have to fear, my car is already making yours more valuable by it's
non-originality; in fact I've often said that if circumstances ever
forced me to sell my Elan, I'd make a mold of the flares and then stick
'em on the Elan I'd buy when fortune turned my way again - I like 'em
that much. Original is fine if you're talking a 1960 Chrysler 300F (or
matching-numbers Hemi Road Runner or heck, a Model T) - but this is an
ELAN, a car that basically started life as a kit car and was meant to be
driven, not to be a museum piece. I'd also agree with what Tony said
earlier, there does not seem to be a severe shortage of nice Elans out
there.
Ah well. I'm still at least a year away from actually doing anything,
but I'm used to getting abuse about whether or not my car is "real" - I
used to own a Porsche 914.
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ALLEN, David wrote:
Hang on a minute...
The +2 is a beautiful car. It doesn't have a bad angle. Its perfectly
proportioned and functional to boot! for those of us with a couple of
kids its got to be one of the most beautiful family carriers available!
Just look at the RX8, A copy of the +2 if ever I saw one and even with
30 years more design time it still doesn't look as good..
The +2 always seems to be maligned by owners who'd rather have a +0 but
cannot afford one. They buy a +2 and then moan and try and convert it to
a +0..
Leave the +2 alone
Cheers
tim
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Hang on a minute...
The +2 is a beautiful car. It doesn't have a bad angle. Its perfectly
proportioned and functional to boot! for those of us with a couple of
kids its got to be one of the most beautiful family carriers available!
Just look at the RX8, A copy of the +2 if ever I saw one and even with
30 years more design time it still doesn't look as good..
The +2 always seems to be maligned by owners who'd rather have a +0 but
cannot afford one. They buy a +2 and then moan and try and convert it to
a +0..
Leave the +2 alone
Cheers
tim
--
Dr Tim Dafforn
MRC Fellow
Biosciences
University of Birmingham
Edgbaston
Birmingham
B15 2TT
(0121) 414 5881
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