Bonnet Springs and Height
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Whereas Jon Eckman has a 66S2 (026/4506) with 2 springs - my 65S2 (026/4600)
had 1 spring for the bonnet! Proves again that Lotus production and shipping
must have been quite fluid! My question is that - my hood is just proud of the
surrounding body. I have plastic flat head bolts in the semicircular channel
where the bonnet pivot rides and was going to remove them. Where those bolts
standard or were they aftermarket items to raise the hood height? It seems their
main purpose is to allow the Aluminum strips to rub on plastic rather than
the painted surface. (lower friction?)
Thanks
Paul Zimmerman
Whereas Jon Eckman has a 66S2 (026/4506) with 2 springs - my 65S2 (026/4600)
had 1 spring for the bonnet! Proves again that Lotus production and shipping
must have been quite fluid! My question is that - my hood is just proud of the
surrounding body. I have plastic flat head bolts in the semicircular channel
where the bonnet pivot rides and was going to remove them. Where those bolts
standard or were they aftermarket items to raise the hood height? It seems their
main purpose is to allow the Aluminum strips to rub on plastic rather than
the painted surface. (lower friction?)
Thanks
Paul Zimmerman
- brassringfarm
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Paul,
Mine has these also. I believe their purpose is for bonnet
adjustment (mine was too low) and to provide a bearing surface for
the bonnet hinge(?) strips to slide on.
Mike Geiger
66 S3 Coupe' 36/6278
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Mine has these also. I believe their purpose is for bonnet
adjustment (mine was too low) and to provide a bearing surface for
the bonnet hinge(?) strips to slide on.
Mike Geiger
66 S3 Coupe' 36/6278
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Mike Geiger
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type36lotus - Fourth Gear
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Paul,
You are correct about the purpose of the nylon screws to lower friction fora nicer slip joint. Removing them would lower the bonnet, but create a situation you wouldn't want.
Roger
Whereas Jon Eckman has a 66S2 (026/4506) with 2 springs - my 65S2 (026/4600)
had 1 spring for the bonnet! Proves again that Lotus production and shipping
must have been quite fluid! My question is that - my hood is just proud of the
surrounding body. I have plastic flat head bolts in the semicircular channel
where the bonnet pivot rides and was going to remove them. Where those bolts
standard or were they aftermarket items to raise the hood height? It seems their
main purpose is to allow the Aluminum strips to rub on plastic rather than the painted surface. (lower friction?)
Thanks
Paul Zimmerman
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You are correct about the purpose of the nylon screws to lower friction fora nicer slip joint. Removing them would lower the bonnet, but create a situation you wouldn't want.
Roger
Whereas Jon Eckman has a 66S2 (026/4506) with 2 springs - my 65S2 (026/4600)
had 1 spring for the bonnet! Proves again that Lotus production and shipping
must have been quite fluid! My question is that - my hood is just proud of the
surrounding body. I have plastic flat head bolts in the semicircular channel
where the bonnet pivot rides and was going to remove them. Where those bolts
standard or were they aftermarket items to raise the hood height? It seems their
main purpose is to allow the Aluminum strips to rub on plastic rather than the painted surface. (lower friction?)
Thanks
Paul Zimmerman
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To all. -FWIW
The nylon hinge screws were origional and set up to provide adjustment for bonnet fit to the body shell. The process was described in the first service manual printed in 1964. they also were the bearing surfaces for the bonnet elipse with the fitted aly "slides" mounted to each foreward side of the bonnet, they require a light smear of grease.. A spring is fitted on each side elipse that fastens to the chassis side rails to pull the bonnet up when the bonnet dash hold downs were released -doesn't work very well tho. I carry a yardstick in the boot to hold my hood up.(Colin part #1)
Keep your stick on the ice boys!
Bill -26/0538 - 26/4814
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From: Roger Sieling
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Paul,
You are correct about the purpose of the nylon screws to lower friction for a nicer slip joint. Removing them would lower the bonnet, but create a situation you wouldn't want.
Roger
Whereas Jon Eckman has a 66S2 (026/4506) with 2 springs - my 65S2 (026/4600)
had 1 spring for the bonnet! Proves again that Lotus production and shipping
must have been quite fluid! My question is that - my hood is just proud of the
surrounding body. I have plastic flat head bolts in the semicircular channel
where the bonnet pivot rides and was going to remove them. Where those bolts
standard or were they aftermarket items to raise the hood height? It seems their
main purpose is to allow the Aluminum strips to rub on plastic rather than the painted surface. (lower friction?)
Thanks
Paul Zimmerman
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The nylon hinge screws were origional and set up to provide adjustment for bonnet fit to the body shell. The process was described in the first service manual printed in 1964. they also were the bearing surfaces for the bonnet elipse with the fitted aly "slides" mounted to each foreward side of the bonnet, they require a light smear of grease.. A spring is fitted on each side elipse that fastens to the chassis side rails to pull the bonnet up when the bonnet dash hold downs were released -doesn't work very well tho. I carry a yardstick in the boot to hold my hood up.(Colin part #1)
Keep your stick on the ice boys!
Bill -26/0538 - 26/4814
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From: Roger Sieling
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Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [LotusElan.net] Bonnet Springs and Height
Paul,
You are correct about the purpose of the nylon screws to lower friction for a nicer slip joint. Removing them would lower the bonnet, but create a situation you wouldn't want.
Roger
Whereas Jon Eckman has a 66S2 (026/4506) with 2 springs - my 65S2 (026/4600)
had 1 spring for the bonnet! Proves again that Lotus production and shipping
must have been quite fluid! My question is that - my hood is just proud of the
surrounding body. I have plastic flat head bolts in the semicircular channel
where the bonnet pivot rides and was going to remove them. Where those bolts
standard or were they aftermarket items to raise the hood height? It seems their
main purpose is to allow the Aluminum strips to rub on plastic rather than the painted surface. (lower friction?)
Thanks
Paul Zimmerman
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Bill Rathlef
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"Keep your stick on the ice, boys."
Vancouver Island, Canada
"Keep your stick on the ice, boys."
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Does that mean there were originally 10, or so, extra nuts fitted to
lock the screws? Or were spacer washers used?
Cheers - Richard
wrote:
Does that mean there were originally 10, or so, extra nuts fitted to
lock the screws? Or were spacer washers used?
Cheers - Richard
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Richard.
I just went out to look - I checked the parts manual as well. They are described as 2BA cheeshead (whatever that means) nylon screws x 5/8"long - thatis quoted from the parts manual! To me they look like a nylon hex head 10/32 machine screw with the head filed down. They are installed by tapping into the fiberglass of the of the bodyshell ellipse and several of the screwshave a washer under the head ('tween the screw head and the body) to shim it up for alignment I guess. 8 years ago when I stripped the body for restro / paint I removed the screws and indexed them to their location, retappedthe existing holes at 10/32 as to their sequence after the body shell paint job and it all lined up perfectly - so I didn't think to much of it at the time.
At the center line of the hinge ellipse there is an aluminum support or brace bracket attached with a 10/32 (I suppose) nylock nut. There are 2 springs - one on either side that attempt to help lift the hood. Not worth anything! But they don't deform the bonnet either Hey.
Hope this helps
Stick n Ice.
Bill 26/0538
I just went out to look - I checked the parts manual as well. They are described as 2BA cheeshead (whatever that means) nylon screws x 5/8"long - thatis quoted from the parts manual! To me they look like a nylon hex head 10/32 machine screw with the head filed down. They are installed by tapping into the fiberglass of the of the bodyshell ellipse and several of the screwshave a washer under the head ('tween the screw head and the body) to shim it up for alignment I guess. 8 years ago when I stripped the body for restro / paint I removed the screws and indexed them to their location, retappedthe existing holes at 10/32 as to their sequence after the body shell paint job and it all lined up perfectly - so I didn't think to much of it at the time.
At the center line of the hinge ellipse there is an aluminum support or brace bracket attached with a 10/32 (I suppose) nylock nut. There are 2 springs - one on either side that attempt to help lift the hood. Not worth anything! But they don't deform the bonnet either Hey.
Hope this helps
Stick n Ice.
Bill 26/0538
Bill Rathlef
Vancouver Island, Canada
"Keep your stick on the ice, boys."
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Bill,
"Cheesehead" can mean two things in the UK, in engineering terms it means aslot headed screw with a head shaped like a cheese(!) in other words a shallow cylindrical shape. The other meaning has connotations do with poor hygiene.
Hey, we have ice today, I'll get my stick.
Pete
"Cheesehead" can mean two things in the UK, in engineering terms it means aslot headed screw with a head shaped like a cheese(!) in other words a shallow cylindrical shape. The other meaning has connotations do with poor hygiene.
Hey, we have ice today, I'll get my stick.
Pete
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My Coupe' also had numbers written on body parts. Most of the nylon
bonnet screws were missing, so I bought some Phillips head (no
cheeses heads at ACE hardware) and a bunch of washers. My single
spring was so tight the bonnet would leap about a foot up. So fast
and high that a Lotus experienced friend commented that he'd never
seen one do that.
Mike Geiger
bonnet screws were missing, so I bought some Phillips head (no
cheeses heads at ACE hardware) and a bunch of washers. My single
spring was so tight the bonnet would leap about a foot up. So fast
and high that a Lotus experienced friend commented that he'd never
seen one do that.
Mike Geiger
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Ice!?! Only time we see that stuff is in the afternoon Gin 'n Ton-
Ton.
Jim
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Ton.
Jim
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