spyder engine mounts

PostPost by: mct340 » Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:00 pm

Got my twincam back from the engine builder the other day and the red spyder engine mount brackets were in a box of parts. It's been a while and I can't remember which side (exhaust or carb) the spacers go on. Murphy would dictate that I must do this twice but to save some time I'd appreciate some help. Thanks,
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PostPost by: SADLOTUS » Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:59 pm

Spacers go on the exhaust side.
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PostPost by: richboyd » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:14 pm

In 2004, I had the same issue, so I wrote Sean Reeve at Spyder. Here is his reply:

"The fabricated engine bracket does bolt to the engine block,the standard isolator mount is used with the u section upwards,so if the rubber fails the channel stops the engine dropping any further down.With this system you use two regular engine isolators 07MG004.there is no need to use a different carb side isolator."

I don't see any mention of spacers in his reply. What does this mean? Not sure.
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PostPost by: SADLOTUS » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:05 pm

I can see how that can be confusing. The Spyder fabricated brackets are marked LH and RH (Left hand/Right hand) - This is viewed as if from the driving seat facing forward - The rubber mounts are upside down from the original Lotus way - to save the engine trying to get in the passenger compartment should one fail!
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PostPost by: mct340 » Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:07 pm

Sadlotus,
Thanks for the help. Have you installed your engine with the headers in place? They are tough to fit after for sure.
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PostPost by: SADLOTUS » Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:15 pm

Hi Mike,
The motors not in yet, still waiting for the rest of it to come back from the painter, but in the past I've always put the headers on after engine in.

There's several post about fitting the exhaust with a few good tips. I shorten the studs just enough to get the exhaust on and tight, and use smaller K nuts. That's always been with a standard tubular manifold, the one in the picture is an old geoff howe manifold cermachromed, so don't know yet how tight the fit will be!

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PostPost by: garyeanderson » Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:18 am

I put the header in the engine bay first, then the engine goes in. I mate the two together after the engine mounts are bolted up.

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PostPost by: mct340 » Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:36 am

One last question and thanks in advance ....Is "near" side the carb side?
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PostPost by: garyeanderson » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:53 am

I'll try this question. The near side is on the left as that is the side of the road that folks in GB drive on and that side of the road is closer. The off side is on the other (right) side of the road. I got a 50/50 chance of being wrong I guess but somone will correct me if I am wrong.

I found this on ebay.uk so I assume its referances are for UK roads. Driver and passenger side are pretty poor terms of explaining things unless you know the context of the terminology. I think Left and right are better but some folk still can't figure that out either.

Off Side = The Drivers Side of the Car, often shorten to O/S.
Near Side = The Passenger Side of the Car, often shorten to N/S.
An easy way to remember is Near Side is nearest the kerb, hence, Near Side.
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PostPost by: types26/36 » Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:37 am

You are 100% correct Gary (I was going to say "you are right" but thought it would confuse :lol:
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PostPost by: JKING » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:10 pm

I still have a bent knock-off wheel nut from my old '54 Jaguar XK120M the LEFT side of which got sideswiped by a truck that totaled it many years ago. There is printed on the large wing nut "NEAR SIDE (UNDO)" with an arrow to show the "undo" direction.
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